WE have five political parties, not two

self | Sat. Dec. 6, 2003 | Capt. Tom

[Lunatic Fringe]

The libertarian party won 25 elections in 2003, although in small local elections.

Remember, the Republicans were once a third party in politics.

[Moonman62]

The Bushies are the Republican Party. It was Reagan who was the outsider.

[Squantos]

http://www.constitutionparty.com/

[Moonman62]

While you are correct in your characterization of the Medicare bill, it was the votes of REPUBLICANS that passed it.

I've read and heard about a lot arm twisting that Bush did to get enough Republicans to vote for it.

[xdem]

I realized that they are too stoned to vote, so they aren't much of a political force.

Do you personally know even a single libertarian who abuses drugs? I thought not.

Frauds and con men, like you "Bushies" are, regularly hate those who call them to account.

[mhking]

If Bill 'n Opus had won, there wouldn't be any arguement...

Just damn.

If you want on the new list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

[TheAngryClam]

Michael Moore is a registered member, and promoter, of the Green Party, chief.

[boris]

From "Weird Politics" in High Weirdness by Mail, p. 156-7, (c)1988, by Ivan Stang.

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There are three kinds of people -- I call them Larrys, Curlys, and Moes. The Larrys don't even know that there are three types; if they're told, it's an abstraction, because they cannot imagine anything beyond Larry-ness. The Curlys know about it, and recognize the pecking order, but find ways of living with it cheerfully...for they are the imaginative, creative ones. The Moes not only know about it, but exploit and perpetuate it.

The naive, pleasant believers of all kinds are Larrys -- ineffectual, well-meaning do-gooders destined always to be victims, often without once guessing their status. Like sheep, they don't want to hear the unpleasant legends about "the slaughterhouse"; they trust the strange two-legged beings who feed them. The artists, unsung scientific geniuses, political writers, and earnest disciples of the stranger cults are Curlys -- engaging, original, accident-prone but full of life, intuitively aware of the Moe forces plotting against them and trying to fight back. They can never defeat the Moes, however, without BECOMING Moes, which is impossible for a true Curly.

The Moes, then, are the fanatics, the ranters, the cult gurus, the Uri Gellers AND the Debunkers; they are the Resistance Leaders and the Ruling Class Bankers. They hate each other, but only because they want to control ALL the Larrys and Curlys themselves. They don't actually enjoy their dominance; it's simply part of their nature. Nor are they less foolish for the fact that they make the decisions. They suffer a chronic paranoia that is unknown to their less demanding underlings. Larrys and Curlys die in wars started by rival Moes -- the Larrys willingly, the Curlys with great regret. Concepts like "Hell" and "Sin" were invented by Moes to keep Larrys in line; the Larrys in turn, being far more numerous, exert social pressures on the Curly minority to also obey...mainly so the Larrys won't feel like suckers.

The Moes also invent myths, like that of the "Grouchos, Harpos, Chicos, and Zeppos," to throw the more rebellious Curlys off their trail and keep them unsure of the real situations. [When the Curly's finally die of overwork, the Moes find that they cannot live in an all-Larry world; they select special Larry's and vainly try to mold them into False Curlys...but it isn't the same.]

I am a Moe, though not a particularly powerful one; that is why I know these things, and it is also why I dare to tell you -- for most of you will think it's just a funny joke. A few will know it is the truth, but will fight far harder against my Moe enemies than you will against me, a relatively harmless Moe. My fellow Moes -- enemies and uneasy SubGenius allies alike -- will know what I'm REALLY saying, and chuckle in appreciation while plotting my downfall. In vain. ALL in VAIN, boy.

[xrp]

I was wondering why he left out the libertarians, but then I realized that they are too stoned to vote, so they aren't much of a political force.

Hur hur! And the reason the Republicans don't get too much of a turnout on voting day is because they're too busy kicking in the doors of non-violent drug offenders, ransacking their house and even executing them on the spot!

[DannyTN]

"Do you personally know even a single libertarian who abuses drugs? I thought not."

I don't personally know any libertarians. Thus all of the libertarians I know abuse drugs. LOL

• It's just that the most vocal libertarian freepers are the ones who want to sit on their pack porch and smoke weed.
• The next most vocal libertarians are the ones who think that all taxes are theft and that no legitimate governmental functions exist.
• They are followed closely by the ones who think that all taxes are theft and that there are some ligitimate governmental functions but how government funds those functions is not their problem just don't tax them!

I'm sure there must be some less extreme libertarians somewhere that I've badly impuned and I apologize to both of them.

[Capt. Tom]

Michael Moore is a registered member, and promoter, of the Green Party, chief.

As Bill Clinton would say "it all depends on the meaning of who Michael Moore is."

Michael Moore
Member of Parliament
Party: Liberal Democrat
Lib Dem deputy foreign affairs spokesman
Constituency: Tweeddale, Ettrick and Lauderdale

[TheAngryClam]

The British Liberal Democrats are their version of the Green Party. They're even allied with some of the continental Greens.

[Tribune7]

It was the social conservatives who are the only ones putting up a fight against government expansion. You can't get any more socially conservative than Dick Armey or Ron Paul.

If a politician says he or she is "fiscally conservative but socially liberal" you can almost bet the farm he or she is lying about the fiscally conservative part. Consider Arlen Specter, Olympia Snowe, Christie Todd Whitman, Susan Collins etc

[Servant of the 9]

If a politician says he or she is "fiscally conservative but socially liberal" you can almost bet the farm he or she is lying about the fiscally conservative part.

If a politician is really "fiscally conservative but socially liberal" then he is a Libertarian, like Ron Paul.

So9

[Tribune7]

If a politician is really "fiscally conservative but socially liberal" then he is a Libertarian, like Ron Paul.

Ron Paul is pro life, big time.

[StriperSniper]

Alan Caruba (Boring Party-New Jersey)

He writes some interesting stuff: Alan Caruba Commentaries

[StriperSniper]

That is not necessarily an inconsistency, there are many pro-life libertarians. After all, there is no liberty without life. It all depends on when the individual believes life begins.

[Tribune7]

That is not necessarily an inconsistency, there are many pro-life libertarians.

I don't think it is either. There is nothing wrong with libertarians.

[Richard Kimball]

You lose me when you talk about Perot's mistake. Perot was paid off by the Clintons to split the Bush vote. If you'll go back and look, Perot dropped out of the race the week of the rat convention, and got back in when Clinton started dropping in the polls. Perot never wanted to be President.

[StriperSniper]

Sorry, I misinterpreted your comment.

Too many don't really understand what libertarianism is all about and think it is just a bunch of cheap-@$$ dope smokers. ;-)