Blood Found In Rodriquez' Car~~Story Dru Sjodin

Milwaukee Channel News ^ | 12/4/03

[Devil_Anse]

Naw. Death is better.

B/C he's probably already BEEN gang raped by a bunch of big burly inmates--he was in prison for 23 years.

I doubt if he would be troubled by anything short of death. Besides, he is taking up space.

[Devil_Anse]

I'm from the midwest. IMO, the whole midwest is way too liberal.

[Devil_Anse]

I'm from the midwest. IMO, the whole midwest is way too liberal.

[ridesthemiles]

Pretty sure it happened in Dakota, not sure if N or S.

[willyboyishere]

I love this---a mini-thread on "Love Actually" in the midst of a thread on a serial rapist/murderer. Only on FR!

[willyboyishere]

"If it was just you, your daughter, and Rodriguez in the world.....you would kill him immediately, right?"
-----That is absolutely the BEST "what if" scenario I've ever read on the subject of the death penalty/capital punishment. The simple fact, IS, of course, when all the social/judicial obfuscation is stripped away, that it IS
just us, our daughter, and people like Rodriguez in the world. It all depends on how ferociously we are willing to
identify with the Sjodins, whose daughter is most likely dead, killed by Rodriguez. We always have a HUGE fight on our hands with a multitude of others who have different "interests" to promote other than common sense.
We should return to the "society of three" you proposed.

[ridesthemiles]

Why was this animal out of prison?

Because the medical quacks said he was fixed. I feel it is time for those types of jobs to be outlawed, since they only bring on more problems for society in general.
I never met a person who studied the head game topics who was not more than a little nuts themselves.

They keep thinking they are indispensable, and that they have the smarts to judge a person is "cured". If they had to take that person home with them, keep them in their house with their spouse and kids, I would be willing to bet a nice prime rib dinner at local watering hole that those perps would never see the light of freedom again.

[claudiustg]

With as many mistakes as the judicial system makes (they let this boy out for one!) I have real trouble supporting the death penalty. I think we do have to come to grips with the idea that some people are too dangerous to be let out into free society though.
As for torture to obtain evidence, believe me you don't want to live in such a society.
In this case let's say that kidnapping already carries a "normal" sentence of life in prison and that there are degrees of prison from hard labor gulags to country club enclosures. Then one could bargain with the perp. Cooperating gets you into a joint with TV and relatively nice surroundings. Non-cooperation assures you will die with a pick ax in your hands. Either way there is no release.

[willyboyishere]

Yes, one mistake of the system's was that "they let this boy out". Not imposing life in prison at a minimum for violent attacks like the one he committed in 1974 is part and parcel of the system's mistakes, since this particular creep thereby imposed the death penalty on his current victim, which is exactly what he intended to do in 1974 with the victim who had the wherewithal to fight him off after being stabbed. If we can't foresee the likelihood of this happening, we'll never impose realistic sentences, and
let people like Rodriguez out, and from what I gather, not even keep him under "surveillance", (a wishful thinking scenario, that, for obvious reasons, would never work anyway). As for torture, I don't recall ever underwriting that or suggesting I thought it was a good idea, anywhere in what I wrote. But I'll tell you one thing: I saw Drew Sjodin's father on TV a few hours ago, trying to be brave and hopeful, saying to his missing daughter "Don't worry, we'll find you Doodles, no problem". "Doodles" is my own nickname for my daughter, who is Dru's age.

[claudiustg]

I didn't mean to imply that you personally were advocating torture. I was answering the numerous other posts that are advocating such measures.
I think we need to seek solutions that lead to a better society rather than those that are satisfying at the moment. Neither the old blood feud system nor the present catch and release system are what's needed.
We now know that sexual predators pose an indefinite threat to our loved ones and our society. We need to incorporate that knowledge into our justice system.

[Jim Noble]

We should return to the "society of three" you proposed.

Thanks for the compliment!

I do think we need trials to establish guilt, and I am willing to accept my neighbors as the triers of fact.

It is a mystery to me, though, how we have allowed lawmakers, judges, and the bar to take us so far away from reality.

The way Rodriguez' brain works makes him dangerous. No one has any idea what to do about him and his fellows therapeutically-that's because they don't have any diseases.

The choices are kill them when discovered, or maintain them for life at the community's expense.

I vote for #1.

[Jim Noble]

Because the medical quacks said he was fixed. I feel it is time for those types of jobs to be outlawed, since they only bring on more problems for society in general.

Doctors should not be involved in "treating" people who aren't sick.

We don't know any more about what to do about Rodriguez than the first hundred people in the phone book.

[JamesA]

It doesn't work in all cases

[LisaMalia]

The choices are kill them when discovered, or maintain them for life at the community's expense. I vote for #1.

I couldn't agree more.

The most utterly sickening thing I've seen during this whole ordeal, was his court appointed attorney's remarks. The day after, he was talking about how the monster and he "bonded", and as it happens they are both originally from Texas. He was just talking about this like they were long lost pals. He said they only "got to know each other" on that first day, and he would talk to him about the case tomorrow. Like is was no big deal.

So here is a young woman missing, only this animal knows where she is, and his attorney is having a chit chat with him.

Good Lord, would someone tell me what the HELL is wrong with this world.

A side note....www.finddru.com is a good place to post prayers to family and friends of Dru.

[Oberon]

Seriously, are there people who actually, after having thought about it, defend the proposition that scum like this should not be killed?

The sticking point mostly seems to be about being absolutely sure you've got the right scum.

[JamesA]

(The ACLU would never allow it, unfortunately) Thats just about the fact of it..The ACLU will gladly step in to provide whatever assistance this creep needs. He has rights too they'd say, too bad.

[LisaMalia]

I think HER blood in HIS car is pretty proof positive, don't you?

My cousin's 21 year old daughter, Stephanie Evans, was murdered a year and a half ago in our rural community. They have all the evidence, and know who the murderer is.

He ran to Canada, and was caught. (Actually from a tip on America's Most Wanted, his new girlfriend turned him in). He was in jail up there at the time for theft, so first we had to wait for him to finish that sentence.

He is back in Ohio now, in custody. Still waiting for the trial to begin. The look of pain I see on my cousin's face is almost unbearable. And she still has the trial to go through.

Our court system today has no repect for the victims and their family. The criminals seem to have all the rights.

[Oberon]

I think HER blood in HIS car is pretty proof positive, don't you?

I don't want to come off as defending a murderer, but all I've seen in the news so far is that they've found blood in his car that is the same type as Dru's, based on a preliminary test. That's pretty strong evidence, but it's not proof.

When the DNA sequence comes back an absolute match, proving that Dru was bleeding in this man's car, then by all means hang him.

I fully expect that such proof is forthcoming. In fact, I think we've found our murderer. That being so, it shouldn't be terribly difficult to come up with real proof. The DNA evidence should be the clincher.

[LisaMalia]

When the DNA sequence comes back an absolute match, proving that Dru was bleeding in this man's car, then by all means hang him.

Probably will be too little, too late by then.

He was also seen on a security camera in the Mall parking lot where Dru worked. Put that together with the blood evidence, and his propensity for being a sexual predator, well, you do the math.

I think they had enough on this man to put him under the lights and torture him to find out information about what he did to this young woman. Just my opinion, I know this could never happen in the "kid glove treatment" of criminals in our society today.

[worrywart]

Whoever's responsible for him being out of prison -- whether its the doctors who proclaimed him cured, or the judge who imposed too light a sentence, or the legislator who deemed that anything less than life in prison is a sufficient sentence for someone convicted of multiple rapes -- should be executed right along with the perp as accessories to the crime!

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