Panel: "Efforts to unite Christians, Muslims undermine Gospel"

BP ^ | Dec 4, 2003 | David Roach

[fiscally_right]

Interesting

[bobo1]

Thank God that the Southern Baptists will take a stand.

blessings. greg

[onedoug]

Religions are largely a reflection of their adherents...which may go some way toward explaining why Islam seems co-opted and made-up.

[nmh]

The Southern Baptists are one of the few brave Christians to call a spade a spade. They are right in what they are saying here. It is politically inocrrect but, so be it! No Koran kissing going on here to go along to get along.

[k2blader]

Glad to be affiliated with Southern Baptists bump.

[IronJack]

Does anyone else think this ecumenical nonsense has gone just a trifle too far?

[GeekDejure]

It is not the same God," he said. "The Koran is explicit not to say Trinity.... We're not talking about the same God."

In fact, Islamic eschatology teaches that one day Jesus will return to "break all the crosses" and "kill and send to hell every Jew and Christian who did not accept Allah," Caner said.

"As much as I would love for there to be ... unity, you cannot unite with those who seek your death for the sole reason of your conversion," Caner said.

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George W. Bush... are you listening to these truths???
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[USF]

"Christians view Muslims as monotheistic allies in the culture wars?

Errrrmmm... wonder how a Muslim would get around that Darul Harb vs Darul Islam thing, and the whole idea of a caliphate for the ummah. And where does this leave the "sons of apes and pigs?"

[LiteKeeper]

INTREP - RELIGION OF PEACE COMPROMISERS ALERT!

SPOTREP - SO BAPTISTS take stand where many others should also.

[USF]

"For millions and millions of Muslims, peace -- being defined as being ignored by the Gospel

Islam and Peace, and the differences between Islam and Christianity

[tracer]

totalwasteoftimeandresourcesbump

[LS]

I grew up as a S. Baptist, and while now there are many aspects of that denomination's theology I find flawed, I can still count on them to take a solid moral stand on almost every issue.

[Keyes2000mt]

Kreeft is generally pretty solid. DOn't know how he went so far afield on this one.

[Russian Sage]

Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

James 2:19

[reed_inthe_wind]

When the opening sentence of this article mentioned a culture war, I read with some anticipation. Instead, the article should have been titled "A Baptist is not a Muslim and Vice Versa."

The term culture war caught my attention because I recently read the first three chapters of a book by Steven Pinker, "The Blank Slate." The opening chapters are a survey of philosophical thought from Hobbes, Locke and DeCarte to the current intellectuals as it pertains to human nature and the nature vs. nurture controversy. The survey ends with a definition of culture. And if this definition of culture doesn't get you ready to fight a war, you may already be dead. Culture is considered by some to be a supra entity - like a man made glory cloud that resides just above the individual. Man is thought to respond by instinct to the supra culture. Thus man is reduced to an animal in concordance with the theory of evolution. Where an animal responds to stimuli like food, man responds with the same base set of instincts to a culture. Pinker is a chaired professor of psychology at MIT - he is apparently anti christian - in other words a run of the mill intellectual.

It is important for us to realize just how far the intellectual mind has descended into a night that is utterly putrid and dark. When our Holy Father, Pope John Paul II warns us of the culture of death it is more than a call to engage in tactical politics such as prolife initiatives or marriage protection amendments. It is ultimately, as my Baptist friends point out, a call to conversion.

Along the path of salvation history, the muslim world view may ally itself with the church for tactical reasons. The muslim view is flawed (with its house of war) but not as depraved as the intellectual onslaught that is waging the culture of death against the little ones. However, all Christians know that when Jesus returns it is Islam that will be thrown into the dustbin of history - along with some intellectual theories.

An objective observer can see that the muslim world is bloody and has been ailing for 500 years. Therefore, any alliance between the Bride of Christ and Islam must be underscored with Christian self sufficiency. We can not expect to be propped up by a house that is built on such a foundation.

[Salem]

Although my hero GWB and Administration may be loath to admit it, for political reasons, the war on terror is most certainly founded in the war of ideas which founded the West, and left the Middle East in the Dark Ages.

  AMERICA AT WAR
"And Caesar's spirit ranging for revenge,
With Ate by his side come hot from hell,
Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice
Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war;
That this foul deed shall smell above the earth,
With carrion men groaning for buriel."
Shakespeare from Julius Caesar.

[cookcounty]

What's the problem? We all worship the same God: Jesus Christ.

[ETERNAL WARMING]

Panel: "Efforts to unite Christians, Muslims undermine Gospel"

Never. True Christians know their gospel and NOTHING will undermine it or their support for Israel. They can preach their PC mantra all they want, but we're not fooled.

[ppaul]