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ISLAMIZING OUR SCHOOLS -- What Happened To The Separation of Church & State? ...
ICONOCLAST ^ | Hans Zeiger

Posted on 12/04/2003 5:21:10 AM PST by Apolitical

At Royal Oak Intermediate School in Covina, California, students in Len Cesene's seventh grade history class fasted last week to celebrate the Muslim holy month of Ramadan. Mr. Cesene's 12 and 13-year old students are the latest to become part of a growing Islamic indoctrination craze sweeping through America's schools.

Mr. Cesene's letter to parents explained that, "in an attempt to promote a greater understanding and empathy towards the Muslim religion and toward other culture, I am encouraging students to participate in an extra credit assignment. Students may choose to fast for one, two or three days. During this time, students may only drink water during daylight hours."

Outraged by the assignment of religious fasting in a public school, the American Middle-East Christian Association (AMECA) exercised its First Amendment right to organize a protest outside of Royal Oak Intermediate School. In a press release, AMECA spokesman Steve Klein emphasized that no Islamic country in the world has the right of free speech.

But when it comes to religious expression in the public square, there is an evident double standard. As Klein noted, "America's Christian children had better not even utter the name Jesus Christ in public schools without persecution and prosecution by the 'separation of church and state' zealots."

Christian author and radio talk show host Bob Morey organized several hundred people to participate in the protest. "What would Muslim parents feel if their students came home with a letter from their public school teacher [saying] that next Thursday they're bringing in a priest to baptize all the Muslim children?" Morey asked in the Los Angeles Times....

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TOPICS: Canada; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: California
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Sowing the seeds for home-grown Islamofascism, and for extinction of America's founding Judeo-Christian ethos.
1 posted on 12/04/2003 5:21:11 AM PST by Apolitical
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To: Apolitical
The teacher should be put on administrative leave, with pay of course or else the NEA would go ballistic. He should be forced to attend diversity and sensitivity classes and grief counselors should be brought in for the children.
2 posted on 12/04/2003 5:23:49 AM PST by xrp (The best service 'public servants' can do for the public is to get out of public service.)
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To: Apolitical
What Happened To The Separation of Church & State? ...

It's only for Christians.

3 posted on 12/04/2003 5:24:59 AM PST by Jim Noble
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To: Apolitical
The Christians in this school might have responded by organizing a fast in Christ's Name for the conversion of these poor lost Muslims. We must learn to respond to these attacks on our faith properly.
4 posted on 12/04/2003 5:31:50 AM PST by TheCrusader
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To: Jim Noble
Actually, I believe I heard a teacher from this school on a radio program, and he said they caught a lot of grief in times past for having their students sing Christmas carols with references to Jesus and God in them.
5 posted on 12/04/2003 5:33:52 AM PST by McDuckles
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To: Apolitical
We can hope that the students react the same to this brain washing attempt that they react to school in general.............

go home hating school!

6 posted on 12/04/2003 5:36:58 AM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (so it is written, so it is done)
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To: Apolitical
OK, where is the ACLU? Still waiting...hmmm, no lawyers. Look, religion in public schools! Still waiting...
7 posted on 12/04/2003 5:38:09 AM PST by Sender
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
go home hating school!

That would be my advice - it's worked for millions.

8 posted on 12/04/2003 5:43:17 AM PST by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: Apolitical
My 9 yr old thinks that her elementary school won't be doing anything for Christmas. No projects, no pageants, or plays. They didn't do anything for Thanksgiving, except a luncheon for the kindergartners.

If you can, home-school your kids. I'm moving the hell out of here, and I'm putting my boy in a charter school. Sort of like homeschooling, but he goes once a week to a classroom for tests and assignments.

Islam can kiss my ass.
9 posted on 12/04/2003 5:53:21 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl (I'd rather have dead rats in my walls, than Hillary for President.,)
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To: Apolitical
Double standard is what it's all about with liberals.

- Tolerance, except for non-liberals.
- Affirmative action, except for Caucasians.
- Gun restrictions, except for LEO's.

10 posted on 12/04/2003 5:54:57 AM PST by LurkedLongEnough (Oh no, I won't leave no stone un-turned...)
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To: Sender
Sorry to say this but he!! will freeze over before the ACLU gets into this issue.
11 posted on 12/04/2003 6:24:48 AM PST by NCC-1701 ((Good luck, happy hunting, and God-speed to the US military and our allies in this operation.))
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To: NCC-1701
OKAY GUYS, the US Constitution is a living document. What the founding fathers meant when they mentioned a separation of church and state, was a separation of Christianity and state
12 posted on 12/04/2003 6:31:33 AM PST by LandofLincoln
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To: Apolitical
As long as a teacher wants to promote Islam, homosexuality, or radical environmentalism, everything is OK. Want to teach Judeo-Christian values, or strict construction of the Constitution? You're fired!
13 posted on 12/04/2003 6:46:20 AM PST by Astronaut
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To: Apolitical
Separate school and state, and we won't have the problem of taxpayer funded Islamist indoctrination.
14 posted on 12/04/2003 7:31:34 AM PST by secretagent
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To: Sender
"OK, where is the ACLU?"

About three years ago, I heard an ACLU spokesperson (female) say on the radio that it's ok for the government to coddle religions other than Christianity because Christianity is the dominant religion in our society, so the coddling of minority religions does not pose a threat of government-sponsored religion. I couldn't believe she would openly say that, but she did.
15 posted on 12/04/2003 7:33:38 AM PST by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: Apolitical
(from the article) According to ASSIST News Service, students must learn to pray "in the name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful," and they must chant, "Praise to Allah, Lord of Creation." For nearly a month, young and vulnerable minds are saturated with a curriculum of Arabic phrases, Koran verses, and proverbs.

Here is what one poster posted a couple of days ago, and it should scare the life out of all these little munchkins and their parents:

To: Lando Lincoln

According to sha'ariah law, reciting of the shihadah (Islamic declaration of faith) automatically converts one to Islam. No backing out later, they are all little Muslims now.

7 posted on 12/01/2003 2:02 PM EST by Alouette

These kids are now considered Muslims, whether they meant it that way or not.

Moral of this story: When one plays around with Satan, one becomes his plaything, and he plays for keeps!

16 posted on 12/04/2003 8:56:19 AM PST by Gritty ("The Quran should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only religion"Omar Ahmad {CAIR})
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To: Steve_Seattle
The ACLU has long been a heavily Jewish organization, and the Jews are still scared of Christianity. They ought to be more scared of Islam.
17 posted on 12/04/2003 8:58:22 AM PST by expatpat
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To: expatpat
I think that's the main reason. They don't consider Islam a threat to them (stupid) and so are not always trying to stamp it out.

But from some of the ACLU people I've known, I can say that most of them wouldn't like this.

(And no, I am not a fan of the ACLU.)
18 posted on 12/04/2003 9:07:59 AM PST by GulliverSwift (Howard Dean is the Joker's insane brother.)
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To: Apolitical
In a related story, the NEA is advocating that all public schools should follow the Madras system, however in order to make up to any imaginary discrimination, boys will not be allowed in school for the first 2000 years.
19 posted on 12/04/2003 9:10:40 AM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: TheCrusader
"Be thou King of all those involved in idolatry and Islamism."
20 posted on 12/04/2003 9:58:36 AM PST by Hermann the Cherusker
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