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To: Just mythoughts
I suppose years later we'll hear this was fraud like a lot of other 'missing link fossils'.
4 posted on 12/03/2003 5:02:50 PM PST by cyborg (mutt-american)
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To: cyborg
I suppose years later we'll hear this was fraud like a lot of other 'missing link fossils'.

Ooooooookay...there was the Piltdown Hoax, and then there was...your turn! Name another...

5 posted on 12/03/2003 5:05:30 PM PST by Pharmboy (Dems lie 'cause they have to...)
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To: cyborg
Their description of connecting relatives was not set in concrete. Their language always contains "outs" in case of some new discovery.

Must have been in "science" class that bjclinton came up with "depends on the meaning of "is" is.

9 posted on 12/03/2003 5:10:31 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: cyborg
I suppose years later we'll hear this was fraud like a lot of other 'missing link fossils'.

A "lot" of them? If you can name more than *two* from the entire history of paleontology, I'll be impressed. Constrast that to the literally multiple *thousands* of legitimate transitional fossils which have been found.

But creationists don't like talking about *those*, do they? Instead they just try to give the false and misleading impression that "many, perhaps all" transitional fossils are in some way suspect. You know, by darkly "supposing" about whether the countless examples of fossil evidence might just "years later" be found to be fraudulant like "a lot of others" (number unspecified).

Last time I checked, two or so does count as "a lot". But then I've come to realize that creationists often have a different grasp of number and proportion from the rest of us.

88 posted on 12/03/2003 10:04:21 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: cyborg
Interesting how Reuters, Yahoo, National Geographic, et al like to do an evolution victory dance when the original article out of Nature magazine is far less convincing.

Here are some snippets from the original Nature article with some telling words/statements bolded, compliments of Creation Safaris' editor:

During most of the Cenozoic era, from the Cretaceous–Tertiary boundary 65 million years ago [sic] until roughly 24 million years ago [sic], Afro-Arabia was [sic] an island continent drifting steadily [sic] northwards towards Eurasia. Fossil mammals documenting this period are scarce and belong almost exclusively to endemic forms restricted to Afro-Arabia, such as proboscideans, hyraxes and elephant-shrews. But by around 24 million years ago [sic], a permanent land bridge had formed between the two landmasses. A burst of faunal interchange followed: many Eurasian mammals, such as rhinos and ruminants, dispersed into Africa, and some Afro-Arabian mammals, such as elephants, migrated in the opposite direction.

Among the proboscideans recorded are primitive [sic] forms such as Palaeomastodon and Phiomia (also known from older deposits in Egypt). But there are also representatives of modern families, for example taxa such as Gomphotherium, the earliest proboscidean on the branch leading to extant elephants. Another surprise is the oldest occurrence of deinotheres, peculiar proboscideans with downward-curved lower tusks, which were previously recorded only from rocks younger than 24 million years old [sic]. The new species of deinothere displays molars that are more ‘bunodont’ in form (that is, made of several distinct cusplets arranged in transverse crests) than its descendant, whose molars display plain transverse crests. This discovery seems to rule out the possibility that deinotheres are derived from an ancestor bearing plain, transverse-crested molars, as was formerly supposed, and provides new evidence about proboscidean evolution [sic].

Finally, the discoveries of Kappelman et al. highlight two other palaeobiological issues. First, on northern continents glaciation caused a significant cooling around 33 million years ago [sic], which resulted in numerous extinctions [sic] among mammalian communities. From these new data, however, it seems that large Afro-Arabian herbivores were not affected, either at that time or later, implying that the climatic changes were less severe on southern continents. Second, the fossil record of the Afro-Arabian continent is not only scanty but also largely concentrated on the northern edge. This has led to the proposal that other groups of mammals existed in Afro-Arabia during its period of isolation, but that they were restricted to more southern latitudes. However, the Chilga mammal community is rather like that found at Fayum in Egypt, which is some five million years older [sic], providing hints that there was little provinciality among Afro-Arabian mammals at that time. As yet, though, we have unveiled [sic] only a few of the secrets of mammal evolution on the Afro-Arabian continent. Many more surprising discoveries are to be expected.

274 posted on 12/04/2003 12:04:18 PM PST by Michael_Michaelangelo
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To: cyborg
I suppose years later we'll hear this was fraud like a lot of other 'missing link fossils'.

Dear, dear friend. Dear, sweet friend.

You will learn not to tangle with those whose god is a collection of bones. You will learn.


436 posted on 12/05/2003 12:09:35 AM PST by rdb3 (1971 - 2003: From underrated to most anticipated.)
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To: cyborg
I suppose years later we'll hear this was fraud like a lot of other 'missing link fossils'.

A lot of others?
Name a second one after 'Piltdown Man'

One practical Joke by students does not make 'a lot'

So9

669 posted on 12/08/2003 5:10:04 PM PST by Servant of the 9 (Effing the Ineffable.)
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