'Dru, We Will Find You,' Police Vow

Fox News ^ | 12-2-03 | AP

[JustPiper]

GRAND FORKS, N.D.

[Bonaparte]

"But a psychologist who examined him decided against the recommendation."

These psychologists have even less conscience than the convicts they want to turn loose on the community.

[JustPiper]

The entire judicial system and the medical field have become nearly useless

[Tennessee_Bob]

Rodriguez has convictions for rape, attempted kidnapping and aggravated assault, and has used a weapon in at least one assault

And the death penalty is a bad idea.

[Jim Noble]

The entire judicial system and the medical field have become nearly useless

What is useless is the unwarranted application of "illness" to people like Rodriguez.

If a pipe in your wall is leaking, don't call a carpenter.

Physicians are the last people on earth who should be dealing with monsters like this guy. But the folk belief, "he must be sick" runs really deep.

He is not sick. Neither are any of the other tens of thousands of predators currently engaged in scamming the legion of doctors, nurses, and mental health workers charged by society with "treating" their "illness".

After demonstrating the capability and the desire to rape and murder, offenders should be permanently isolated or killed. It's not a medical problem.

[LibertarianInExile]

No, he's DEFINITELY sick. The problem is that there are far too many stupid people that think that he should be cured with something other than high amperage.

[JustPiper]

offenders should be permanently isolated or killed

Bump!!!

[Heatseeker]

No, he's DEFINITELY sick. The problem is that there are far too many stupid people that think that he should be cured with something other than high amperage.

Agreed. The thing that impresses me about this guy, if indeed he is the perp (he remains inncoent until proven otherwise) is that he's in prison for 23 years, gets out and within a few months is stalking (the phone call(s) to the Victoria's Secret store) and then abducting all over again. If that isn't proof he isn't going to get better, I don't know what is.

[Jim Noble]

If that isn't proof he isn't going to get better, I don't know what is

What is it that you think he needs to get "better" from?

And what "treatment" do you think (based on data from studies showing effectiveness) he should get?

[Heatseeker]

I was merely agreeing with LibertarianInExile's point that there are "too many stupid people that think that he should be cured with something other than high amperage."

It points up what is, for me, the central problem in 'modern' criminal justice: the notion that victims and potential victims are irrelevant and that the complete focus of the system should be on "rehabilitating" offenders. I'm all for rehabilitation where studies show there is a reasonable exptectation for success. That obviously isn't the case here. The main focus in these sorts of cases should be on keeping the perps out of society permanently.

[Jim Noble]

I'm all for rehabilitation where studies show there is a reasonable exptectation for success.

Do you know of any studies that show that a term of imprisonment in a typical medium security US prison carries any expectation (never mind a reasonable one) of rehabilitation?

[Heatseeker]

For this type of criminal? No - all the information I've seen is that this type of offender cannot be made into a model citizen, no matter how long they're in prison.

Even for many other types, depending on what recidivism rate you consider acceptable, the only "cure" is that by the time they're in their 50's and older, they are less likely to behave violently for obvious reasons.