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Someone Will Have To Pay
WorldNetDaily ^ | 12/2/02 | Neil Boortz

Posted on 12/02/2003 9:54:00 AM PST by Texas Federalist

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1 posted on 12/02/2003 9:54:00 AM PST by Texas Federalist
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To: Texas Federalist
As things stand now, George Bush holds the record for three of the top five years in terms of increases in government spending.

It sounds like that's not adjusted for inflation and population, so that's totally meaningless. I seriously doubt he has anywhere near three of the top five as a percentage of GDP. The Lincoln administration I would think has the record.

2 posted on 12/02/2003 10:11:57 AM PST by lasereye
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To: Texas Federalist
We just might be better off with the stalemate that comes from a president from one party, and a Congress under the control of the other.

Neal is shortsighted, yet again. With two, three, or even four justices ready to retire within the next 5 years, it is VITALLY important who gets to pick them.

3 posted on 12/02/2003 10:20:20 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: Texas Federalist
IMO during the Clinton administration, the only spending cut was at the Pentagon where 25% of the budget was cut while ignoring the terrorist threat to the U.S.A. These cuts in the defense budget were quickly spent on entitlement programs.

Now we have a terrorist threat that can only be ignored at the expense of our economy and security. We are still saddled with the entitlement program expenses passed during the previous administration. As a conservative I am dismayed at the spending in this administration, however I don't believe the entire blame can be laid at the feet of G.W.

4 posted on 12/02/2003 10:28:09 AM PST by alaskanfan
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To: lasereye
I seriously doubt he has anywhere near three of the top five as a percentage of GDP. The Lincoln administration I would think has the record.

Sounds like a percentage calculation to me. If you think not, maybe you can cite some stats.

5 posted on 12/02/2003 10:29:10 AM PST by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children)
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To: Texas Federalist
P.S. Currently there are 4 justices age 70 or older and Stevens is 83. In five years three more will be 70 or older.
6 posted on 12/02/2003 10:30:15 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: lasereye
I don't think the "three of five" number is adjusted for inflation. But even adjusted for inflation, Bush has presided over the largest increase in spending since LBJ. When you compare it to how little spending increased during the Clinton administration, you can't help but conclude that if you are a proponent of small government, you should hope for a power split, rather than a Republican government.

7 posted on 12/02/2003 10:32:44 AM PST by Texas Federalist
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Neil should understand that it is absolutly a true benefit to the sheeple to have one party controlling everything so as to show you the hypocrisy of this "Two-Party Cartel". This is one more excuse when the congress is split - it gives then an out. Now the rubber meets the road & we see that they all are the same. And all of you that think you are on the verge of a conservative supreme court I'll betcha now that 5 years from today it won't look any different.
8 posted on 12/02/2003 10:33:41 AM PST by Digger
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To: Texas Federalist
Just leave it to me to say other than the tax cuts and the war on terror, there is no real compelling reason to re-elect George Bush.

I'd add the PBA ban to that list.

9 posted on 12/02/2003 10:36:31 AM PST by k2blader (Haruspex, beware.)
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To: Digger
"And all of you that think you are on the verge of a conservative supreme court I'll betcha now that 5 years from today it won't look any different."
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Does anybody seriously believe that Bush has the cajones to risk a political fight over a truly conservative nominee? He'll appoint Gonzalez, who is no better than O'Connor or Kennedy.
10 posted on 12/02/2003 10:40:18 AM PST by Texas Federalist
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Bush can't even get a LOWER court judge voted up or down. What makes you think the Dims would let him seat a USSC judge?

Bush has yet to veto so much as a single discretionary spending bill. He seems to be rubber stamping every peice of pork that rolls across his desk.

This is NOT going to win him any conservative votes and the liberals won't convert. He keeps this crap up, and he'll be lucky if he can hang on to the White House, much less get greater majorities in BOTH Houses of Congress.

11 posted on 12/02/2003 10:43:19 AM PST by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: lasereye
"It sounds like that's not adjusted for inflation and population, so that's totally meaningless."

I've read elsewhere that the Bush's administration has sucessfully increased federal spending by 21% in three years. I think that exceeds any logical adjustment for inflation. As far as population adjustment, you're probably right - since our porous borders have allowed illegaliens to drain resources by billions.

12 posted on 12/02/2003 10:44:46 AM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: Dead Corpse
Bush can't even get a LOWER court judge voted up or down.

IMHO, that is going to backfire on them in the coming election. I predict that the GOP will pick up between three and five seats in the Senate precisely because of the Rats' obstructionist tactics.

13 posted on 12/02/2003 10:48:34 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants; billbears
We were told in 2002 that if Republicans would take back the Senate it would assure Bush's conservative judicial nominees a confirmation. Either the "Republicans" SENT to Washington are do-nothings or the lie is gonna have to be repeated again in 2004.

Some of us remember "we have to take back the Senate".

The only difference between some Democrats and some Republicans is in the shape of the crooked part.
14 posted on 12/02/2003 11:04:06 AM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: Blood of Tyrants
If Bush veto's an AWB renewal, or gets the R's in Congress to shut it down... that'll go a long way towards keeping his conservative base. Although, see my previous point about him rubber stamping damn near everything.

You are forgetting that there a Dem sheep out there that see that "obstructionism" as a good thing. I saw it first hand at the Texas capitol when the Chicken D's blew town. If anything, there will be some minor seat shuffling, but no real change.

Certainly not enough to get the bench cleared and real justices voted in.

I'm a pessimist where government is concerned because I'm proven right more often than not and all suprises are good ones.

15 posted on 12/02/2003 11:04:47 AM PST by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: Dead Corpse
Bush has already said that he supports a renewal of the AWB. I wouldn't be surprised if he turns passive approval into full blown lobbying before the election.
16 posted on 12/02/2003 11:17:05 AM PST by Texas Federalist
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To: azhenfud
the lie is gonna have to be repeated again in 2004.

It'll be reworded but you're right, it will be yet another lie

17 posted on 12/02/2003 11:23:21 AM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: Texas Federalist
Who would have believed that by this point in his presidency Bush would not have proposed eliminating one single government spending program?

Hmmmmm...someone hasn't done thier homework...

Bush Ends Funding For Gun Buyback

Bush's Budget Eliminated the Migrant and Seasonal Farmworker Program

Bush closed the White House Office for Women's Initiatives and Outreach, the White House Race Initiative and AIDS Policy offices

Bush Bars UNFPA Funding

Watershed and Flood Prevention Operations, Watershed Surveys and Planning, the Watershed Rehabilitation Program, and the Wetlands Reserve Program Toxic Substances Hydrology Program (Toxics) and the Water Resources Research Institutes were targeted for elimination in FY2003 Budget

18 posted on 12/02/2003 11:44:57 AM PST by ravingnutter
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To: ravingnutter
According to the article on the migrant workers he didn't end it, he just froze the amount already there. Secondly, do all these even add up to a tenth of 400 billion?
19 posted on 12/02/2003 11:54:15 AM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: azhenfud
"It sounds like that's not adjusted for inflation and population, so that's totally meaningless."

I've read elsewhere that the Bush's administration has sucessfully increased federal spending by 21% in three years. I think that exceeds any logical adjustment for inflation. As far as population adjustment, you're probably right - since our porous borders have allowed illegaliens to drain resources by billions.

I'm not saying the increases in spending were based on inflation or current population increases. He's comparing Bush to past administrations. I'm saying he's comparing a $200 billion or whatever increase in year over year spending under Bush to maybe something like a $10 billion spending increase under Roosevelt. This is an apples and oranges comparison because $10 billion 70 years ago was equivalent to 30 or 40 times that in today's dollars, plus the fact the population is far larger today than it was then.

20 posted on 12/02/2003 12:49:20 PM PST by lasereye
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