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ARMORED WARFARE: The Q-Truck in Iraq
Strategypage.com ^ | December 2, 2003 | Harold C. Hutchison

Posted on 12/02/2003 9:03:30 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4

December 2, 2003: The Q-Truck in Iraq- Army soldiers in Iraq are modifying their vehicles to carry additional weapons, usually the M2 .50-caliber machine gun (first used prior to World War II), the M249 SAW (a 5.56-millimeter machine gun), and the Mk 19 automatic grenade launcher (firing 40-milimeter grenade rounds). The crew-served weapons are mostly going on the Humvees, (no surprise there), but some are also being placed on the M872 Heavy Equipment Trailers. This might sound unusual, but the trucks are large, can carry a lot of ammunition, and guerillas in Iraq might not suspect they are armed at first.

Such things are not new. In Vietnam, M113 armored personnel carriers were equipped with extra machine guns. Jeeps and trucks were also augmented with extra guns and armor. The major objective in this case is to get the guerillas attacking the supply lines to go for what they thought was a supply truck. Once pulled in, they get more than they bargained for. It is the same principle used by the heavily armed and disguised Q-ships of World Wars I and II, which operated against submarines. The intention is to deter attacks by creating doubt in the mind of the guerillas as to whether the soft target is really as soft as it appears to be.

How well will it work? Remains to be seen. Some guerillas never adapted, and ended up getting wiped out. Others did adapt, and forced the occupation forces to develop new tactics to adapt to the guerillas’ adaptation. - Harold C. Hutchison


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: guntrucks; iraq; miltech; shootinsurprise; wheeledarmor
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl; hchutch
Thanks for the ping to this cool article.
41 posted on 12/02/2003 2:11:04 PM PST by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in groups or whole armies.....we don't care how we getcha, but we will)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Bump!
42 posted on 12/02/2003 2:24:28 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
Saw Gun Trucks like this in Kosovo while doing research. I know they saw action there.
43 posted on 12/02/2003 2:28:01 PM PST by wtc911
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To: Fee
Chad chased Qudaffi's army all the way back to Libya using .50s mounted on Toyota Land Cruisers straight out of the showroom.
44 posted on 12/02/2003 2:33:31 PM PST by wtc911
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To: wtc911
Mail runners targeted in Iraq

Force protection is now provided by Army transportation units driving gun trucks—5-ton trucks modified with M-60 machine-gun mounts—with a truck in the front, middle and rear of each convoy. Each truck has a driver, assistant driver and a gunner who must stand in the back of each truck on the lookout for trouble.

45 posted on 12/02/2003 2:59:34 PM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (The Republican Party's priority is national security. The DemocRATic Party's priority is power)
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For truck drivers, convoy route is the front line
46 posted on 12/02/2003 3:23:53 PM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Old soldiers never die. They just go to the commissary parking lot and regroup.)
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1087th Medium truck company is leading the Army's main effort in fielding prototype gun trucks for convoy escort/protection missions into Iraq. MPRI are training truck companies in counter ambush techniques.

47 posted on 12/02/2003 3:36:31 PM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Old soldiers never die. They just go to the commissary parking lot and regroup.)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
ARMORED WARFARE: The Q-Truck in Iraq ~ Bump!
48 posted on 12/02/2003 4:21:26 PM PST by blackie
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To: Cannoneer No. 4; SAMWolf; Darksheare; colorado tanker; Grampa Dave; BOBTHENAILER


49 posted on 12/02/2003 5:46:50 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo

Bring em on!

50 posted on 12/02/2003 5:51:38 PM PST by SAMWolf (Never underestimate the power of human stupidity.)
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To: PhilDragoo
I want one for my own personal vehicle.

Please complain about my gas guzzlin' SUV.

51 posted on 12/02/2003 6:34:15 PM PST by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in groups or whole armies.....we don't care how we getcha, but we will)
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To: SAMWolf
That must just kill people to realize that those are photos of two of our ELECTED officials!

Semper Fi!

TS

52 posted on 12/02/2003 6:43:28 PM PST by The Shrew (Radio FreeRepublic - The New NPR)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
Do y'all have a twin 240 mount?

Twins? Mmmmmmmm........Twins!?

Nah, haven't seen anything like that.

Twins.....mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..................!

53 posted on 12/03/2003 4:04:52 AM PST by Eagle Eye (I'm a RINO. I'm far too conservative to be a real Republican.)
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To: PhilDragoo
Minigun!!
54 posted on 12/03/2003 5:17:12 AM PST by Darksheare (Ignore the wombats, they're a diversion! My 3 million psychotic chinchilla army is the real threat!)
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To: PhilDragoo
Love the pix, Phil!
55 posted on 12/03/2003 9:25:02 AM PST by colorado tanker ("There are but two parties now, Traitors and Patriots")
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To: SAMWolf
Ingenuity, elbow grease improves Humvee protection
56 posted on 12/03/2003 1:44:14 PM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Old soldiers never die. They just go to the commissary parking lot and regroup.)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
Hello, Info on Gun Truck Book;"The Hard Ride; Vietnam Gun Trucks"
http://www.geocities.com/afpmuseum/bkhride.html
57 posted on 01/11/2004 8:29:11 PM PST by hardride
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To: hardride
Image of Vietnam Gun Truck book
58 posted on 01/11/2004 8:34:03 PM PST by hardride
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To: BadAndy

I drive the roads in Iraq everyday....as a contractor.
I have been out bymyself and with the army and in our own civilian gun ships.

They will attack tanks with RPGs usually this doesnt do anything but the main gun on the tank is to big to fire usually, with out to much colateral.

To much armor makes you slow and an easy target for IEDs. There comes a point that even the armor on a tank will not stand up to multiple 155 rounds buried in the road. ( I have seen the remains of this vehicle the turret was 100 feet away and the side track armor about the same distance.)

The humvees also get ambushed by guys hidding in buildins or the side of the road. Generally the army just pushes through the area but will some times come by for a second pass.

The problem is that the ambushers will run away as soon as they fire a mag or launch there RPG. So to stop them it comes down to being able to react quickly and put...........time to go


59 posted on 06/08/2004 4:33:15 AM PDT by Spears
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