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My undercover evening at a Wesley Clark for President meetup.
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| 12-02-03
| Badray
Posted on 12/01/2003 11:19:05 PM PST by Badray
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To: Badray
Suggesting a password-protected sub-FR website chat room or what not, where such democrat opposition research in the future, in the run up to November 2004, can be logged on FR and called up by cleared FR members. It could be done by FreepMail to a assembled list of interested posters, but some way we may want to guard this information.
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posted on
12/02/2003 6:07:18 AM PST
by
AmericanInTokyo
(NORTH KOREA is a DANGEROUS CANCER in late stages; we still only meditate and take herbal medicines)
To: Badray
Good work.
Lately, we have had the good news on our side inspite of the left wing controlled media. The left is losing around the world and here.
Re: The Tipping Point(.."The Left Will Lose It's War On America..")
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1031955/posts The Tipping Point(.."The Left Will Lose It's War On America..")
Mens News Daily ^ | Dec 2, 2003 | Bruce Walker
Posted on 12/01/2003 5:31 PM PST by faludeh_shirazi
The Tipping Point
December 02, 2003 MND Bruce Walker
Free Iran at ActivistChat.com
Wars have a tipping point when one side realizes that it will, inevitably, lose. In 1918, the unbeaten German Army in France and Belgian saw that the flow of fresh troops from America made ultimate defeat certain. In 1990, when the Berlin Wall was torn down, the ultimate collapse of the Soviet Empire was inevitable.
Leftism has reached the same tipping point: the Left will lose its war on America and ordered liberty. There is no specific event - no Battle of Midway or Siege of Yorktown - which precisely defines the coming collapse of Leftism, but a cluster of trends all point in the same direction.
Leftists pined for another Great Depression in America, which, they hoped, would bring back the good old days of soup lines and socialist rabble rousers. But the economy is growing at the fastest rate in two decades. This insures the reelection of President Bush, but it causes Leftists other problems as well.
Sanctimonious whining about the federal deficit, which never once concerned Leftists when the welfare state was being created, look increasingly silly as the engine of economic recovery produces much greater federal tax revenues. In the 2004 campaign, honest economic analysts will be able to project surpluses during the second term of President Bush.
Leftists invented the politics of personal destruction. They have used this tactic not only against politicians but against anyone who stands in their way, but it no longer works - and everyone sees that it no longer works.
Rush Limbaugh, hit with a double whammy in a single week, is back on the air and very popular. The risible concern expressed about Mel Gibsons production of a film which simply reflects the honest beliefs of Christians about the death of Jesus failed to concern serious people and will insure a bigger audience for The Passion.
Katherine Harris is now Congresswoman Harris and a member of the leadership of the majority party in Congress. Newt Gingrich is a frequent and respected commentator on conservative news programs. Senator Carnahan, by contrast, is now citizen Carnahan. Governor Davis is now citizen Davis.
Most important, the shrill hatred of President Bush, whose personal popularity has been higher than any president in the history of modern polling, shows the Lilliputian size of the Left. Conservatives and other normal people look at Leftist whining about President Bushs surprise Thanksgiving visit to our troops in combat zones with a combination of bafflement and contempt.
Leftists attackers now find themselves the attacked. The LA Times-Democrat and the New York Times-Democrat double teamed Governor Schwarzenegger several days before the recall election. Their sneaky slanders did not hurt him, but the LA Times-Democrat lost subscribers it could ill afford to lose and the New York Times-Democrat added its lies about a pro-Nazi Schwarzenegger to its ghastly incompetence in the Jason Blair fiasco.
CBS was forced to scratch The Reagans because the network grossly underestimated the intensity and organization of a very broad, connected and informed conservative majority in America. Books like Bias show Leftism is bankrupt and dishonest.
Academia is facing increasing scrutiny and ridicule as its absurd, surreal hatred of all things good about America becomes more and more commonly understood. The salient fact in this area: students are much more conservative than their faculty and much less willing to be cowed into submission.
The political landscape has changed as well. The Republican Party is now, unquestionably, the majority party in America. Men who once were listened to in the Democrat Party - Ed Koch, Zell Miller, and Andrew Cuomo - now throw up their hands in frustration at a political party that weighs the political consequences of fighting terrorism.
The picture around the world looks even bleaker for Leftists. When President Bush is reelected, the evolution of Iraq into a tolerant nation of ordered liberty is assured. The mullahs of Iran will lose power and be replaced, inevitably, by secular and pro-American leaders. The changes in these two nations will not just transform the Middle East, but Islam itself.
Castro will die soon, and Cuba will live again. Germany will soon have a political party sympathetic, rather than unsympathetic, to our goals. Revelations that the ruling Social Democrat Party was infested with Stasi spies and the sleazy way in which Schroeder won his last election will mean that the next Chancellor of Germany will want to mend relations with America quickly.
Everything points in the same direction: the outcome of the war between Leftism and ordered liberty is certain. Conservatives and other normal people will win this war. Marxists, Fascists, Socialists, Nazis, Islamic totalitarians and other Leftists will lose. As that fact becomes clearer, the orderly retreat of the Left will become a rout.
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posted on
12/02/2003 6:08:38 AM PST
by
Grampa Dave
(Sore@US, the Evil Daddy War bucks, has owned the Demonic Rats for decades!)
To: Badray
Enjoyed your report immensely, Ray! Not surprised by how well you handled the encounter....you are good at subtly rattling people's cages....and not so subtly rattling them, too, when the situation calls for it. Well done !
To: Badray
Great work! Great G2 and a gutsy performance on your part....and for all the right reasons.
You were trying to plant seeds and conveying the truth. No telling what seeds you planted and how they might grow...several of those people certainly went hoime thinking about things they had not intended on thinking and that is always good.
Hat's off to you my friend!
To: Badray
BTW, my condolences to your God-daughter and her family. God rest the soul of their loved one and God comfort their hearts and bless them for their sacrifice.
We are blessed in this nation to have such angels amongst us, willing to sacrifice their all on behalf of truth and liberty.
To: Badray
Next time ask them if they felt the same way about Reagan.
They'll scream YES!
Then point out history proved them completely wrong last time and that it will likely do so again...
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posted on
12/02/2003 6:24:03 AM PST
by
DB
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To: Badray
WOT??? You didn't wear your "Hi I'm A Freeper" hat, and the "DISRUPTOR" t-shirt I gave you????
You should read up on the Delphi techniques if you are going to co-opt meetings. You did well but there are certain tips and pointers you can employ.
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posted on
12/02/2003 6:28:23 AM PST
by
Lazamataz
(PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999 !)
To: lonevoice
Katie Couric naked? Did you see Katie at the Macy's parade? She has lost weight and now she has a turkey neck.
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posted on
12/02/2003 6:31:02 AM PST
by
AppyPappy
(If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
To: Dane
Dane, you need to study the AWB more. It's not about automatic machine guns. In the name of incrementalism, you are being lured into standing on the opposition's ground and using their selling points.
There are principles so deeply woven into the fabric of liberty that you cannot violate them without ripping the entire pattern. For me, the 2nd amendment and abortion are the two lines in the sand. I will not vote for any candidate that waivers on either issue.
It's not about beating chests, any more than what Patrick Henry said and did was about beating chests. The basic issues and similarities in principle between then and now are remarkably similar. The continued assault upon those principles is already shredding our way of life and our freedom, its just being done in a way that most people will notrecognize it until it all falls apart IMHO.
I'm 100% with Ray on this.
Best Fregards.
To: Badray
Hey at least you got a video out of it. It's cheaper than blank tapes.
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posted on
12/02/2003 6:32:07 AM PST
by
exile
(Exile - Helen Thomas tried to lure me into her Gingerbread House.)
To: Badray
You da man!
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posted on
12/02/2003 6:51:54 AM PST
by
theDentist
(Liberals can sugarcoat sh** all they want. I'm not biting.)
To: Badray
Ooooh....I'm not the only one. I went to a Dean meet-up not long ago. Since the loonies read FreeRepublic, I won't mention where it was. Did the Clark folks go on about how much they "hate" the Deaniacs? Cause the Deaniacs are really hateful about the Clark folks. Then again they also hate the Kerry people, but are assuming they will eventually join the Dean fold. They seem to think of the Clarks supporters as warmongers. Only 7 people (excluding myself)showed up to the Dean event at a local coffee house. Too funny.
I didn't tell them I was undecided, I told them I was supporting Dean based on his 2nd amendment stance, which made some of them flinch. Of course I am voting for Dean in the primary, and I sent him my obligatory $25.00 in right wing money. I figure half of that will be spent on sending me more campaign fundraising letters and materials.
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posted on
12/02/2003 6:52:24 AM PST
by
Katya
To: Badray
This is pretty amusing. I myself have been using a similar technique on Dean supporters; I pretend to be a lefty and chastize them for not being "progressive" enough to support Sharpton. It really curdles their milk when ya ask them, "what does your bumper sticker say, 'Vote for Dean, at least he's an electable white guy'?"
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posted on
12/02/2003 7:02:02 AM PST
by
Kenton
To: Badray
In conclusion, I doubt that, without lobotomies, there is any hope of converting any of these people. LOL. Good report. I don't think I would have been able to hold my tounge that long. Especially the "war for oil" propaganda. If that's the best lie they can come up with, Bush should be a shoe in! LOL.
To: Badray
PS...Did they eat junk food, pay for it with food stamps, and smell bad?
To: Badray
Good report.
Report to the decon airlock for decontamination procedures, see you when you're done for the after action mug of 'mud'.
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posted on
12/02/2003 7:34:52 AM PST
by
Darksheare
(Even as we speak, my 100,000 killer wombat army marches forth)
To: GraniteStateConservative
There's a zot on FR of a woman talking about shaving her "bush" in the shower and laughing and crying and generally having a nervous breakdown and talking about how this could be the start of an anti-Bush movement across the country-- women who hate GWB can show the world how they feel by shaving their pubic area. What is it with these liberal exibitionists and their obsession with their genital areas? They can't seem to think about anything else! They keep taking their clothes off in protest. It's a good show for the guys, but that's about it.
It is some disease Clinton (patient 0) spread around the left wing?
To: Katya
Have a question...as one who doesn't closely follow the Dem TOE..are "move-on" and "meet-up" somehow related? I thought move-on.org had endorsed dean, after an internet-poll?
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posted on
12/02/2003 7:55:59 AM PST
by
ken5050
To: Badray; Travis McGee
One bright spot, when I mentioned Hillary, there was almost a spontaneous expression of hope that she would just go away. As a candidate, they all thought that she had too many negatives and drew the most intense reactions and that she could sink the democrats chances of taking back the White House. Travis, see what I mean by Edwards?
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posted on
12/02/2003 7:58:31 AM PST
by
txhurl
To: ken5050
Any group can utilize meet-up...we could have meet-ups for Bush too. Move-on is the group that began during Clinton's impeachment...although Dean got the most votes during their straw poll, he didn't get a clear majority, and thus was not rewarded with the funds.
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posted on
12/02/2003 8:04:32 AM PST
by
Katya
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