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Mystery shrouds whereabouts of bodies of 54 insurgents said killed by US
AFP via Yahoo News ^ | 12/01/03

Posted on 12/01/2003 4:02:05 PM PST by TexKat

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To: TexKat
Were the civilians in this article who said there were no bodies the same civilians interviewed yesterday who said all the casualties were civilian?

Something stinks alright, and it isn't the body count.
81 posted on 12/01/2003 6:29:55 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (There is nothing Democratic about the Democrat party.)
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To: TexKat
They were carried off immediately for the death stills to conserve their water. /Arakis reference
82 posted on 12/01/2003 6:31:04 PM PST by CholeraJoe (Daddy, how many US soldiers have to die in defense of Freedom? Daughter, if necessary, all but 9.)
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To: resistmuch
I rememeber the spray and pray days, blood trails everywhere, not a stiff to be found. I was rather supprised to find out that we killed 1.7 million of our oriential brethern, according to our NVA pals, strange times.
83 posted on 12/01/2003 6:36:46 PM PST by Little Bill (The Bard of Avon Rules, The Duke of Cambridge was a Mincing Quean.)
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To: TexKat
I remember a report early in the war that mentioned Sadam's infatuation with the movie "Blackhawk Down"

Seems Sadam believes a little too much in th movie version of how to defeat the US. This ambush sure smells like someone planned it with Mogidishu in mind. I am sure glad we NOW have tanks and air support with our guys at the front.
84 posted on 12/01/2003 6:38:12 PM PST by wrench
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To: TexKat
So, how much of the money does the bank turn over to the Fedeyeen after the tanks are gone?
And what are we doing delivering money to a hostile city?
85 posted on 12/01/2003 6:38:15 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Rumble Thee Forth...)
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To: wrench
It is a shame, though, we don't go carpet bomb the whole city to rubble..

I'm about there with you.

86 posted on 12/01/2003 6:38:35 PM PST by Indie (Orwell was only a couple dozen years ahead of his time.)
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To: TexKat
So. How come we have a body count of 54 when we can't even count 1? Doesn't add up to me. More military hype.
87 posted on 12/01/2003 6:43:32 PM PST by FloridaBoy
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To: AriOxman

Your Hired


88 posted on 12/01/2003 6:58:01 PM PST by Major_Risktaker (Did you have more freedom in the 20's, 30's, 40's, 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's or today?)
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To: Major_Risktaker
Sounds good...
89 posted on 12/01/2003 7:08:05 PM PST by Krafty123
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To: U S Army EOD
Why is it when you hear about innocent bystanders being killed in a fire fight, the press always assumes we are the one who shot them? Isn't the other side shooting also?

It appears that if they can't say that the wounded and/or dead were at the hands of the American infidels then they just don't say who.

A Iraqi boy, who hospital officials said was wounded in a firefight, lies in a hospital in Samarra, 100 km (60 miles) north of Baghdad, December 1, 2003. U.S. troops said on Monday they had killed 54 guerrillas, some wearing the uniform of Saddam Hussein's feared Fedayeen militia, in a firefight to fend off attackers in the Iraqi town of Samarra. Attacks across Iraq at the weekend also killed seven Spanish intelligence agents, two South Korean contractors, two Japanese diplomats and their Iraqi driver, a Colombian contractor and two U.S. soldiers. REUTERS/Goran Tomasevic

An Iraqi man receives medical help at a hospital in Samarra, 100 km (60 miles) north of Baghdad, December 1, 2003. U.S. troops said on Monday they had killed 54 guerrillas, some wearing the uniform of Saddam Hussein's feared Fedayeen militia, in a firefight to fend off attackers in the Iraqi town of Samarra. Attacks across Iraq at the weekend also killed seven Spanish intelligence agents, two South Korean contractors, two Japanese diplomats and their Iraqi driver, a Colombian contractor and two U.S. soldiers. REUTERS/Zohra Bensemra

An Iraqi boy watches as an Iraqi man display his wounds, after U.S. troops fought their way out of two simultaneous ambushes in Samarra, 100 km (60 miles) north of Baghdad, December 1, 2003. U.S. troops said on Monday they had killed 54 guerrillas, some wearing the uniform of Saddam Hussein's feared Fedayeen militia, in a firefight to fend off attackers in the Iraqi town of Samarra. Attacks across Iraq at the weekend also killed seven Spanish intelligence agents, two South Korean contractors, two Japanese diplomats and their Iraqi driver, a Colombian contractor and two U.S. soldiers. REUTERS/Zohra Bensemra

An Iraqi man holds up a Moslem flag beside two corpses in a morgue in Samarra, 100 km (60 miles) north of Baghdad, December 1, 2003, allegedly killed during shootouts a day earlier. A U.S. commander said Monday that said the testimony of those involved in gun battles suggested 46 attackers were killed in a fierce battle to fight off coordinated ambushes on convoys by guerillas, though the Army had earlier said the death toll was 54. REUTERS/Goran Tomasevic

90 posted on 12/01/2003 7:12:19 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: FL_engineer
Hey FL_engineer, do we have another sniper on our hands?
91 posted on 12/01/2003 7:17:35 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: BagCamAddict
BAGHDAD BOB sounds about right.
92 posted on 12/01/2003 7:31:02 PM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: VeniVidiVici
Seems apparent that civilians colluded with the terrorists. The collusion included prepping the location and setting the stage for the media afterward. Some civilians hurt maybe are just fedayeen out of uniform. If the civilians had tipped off our guys, instead of aiding the enemy, they'd be safe and sound and the bad guys would be dead.
93 posted on 12/01/2003 8:03:58 PM PST by visualops (It's hard to make a comeback when you haven't been anywhere.)
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To: TexKat
Thanks for posting that first-person account. Those are brave men indeed fighting on our behalf.
94 posted on 12/01/2003 8:05:47 PM PST by Looking for Diogenes
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DOD

Coalition Forces Repel Ambushes in Samarra

By K.L. Vantran

American Forces Press Service

WASHINGTON, Dec. 1, 2003 – Several soldiers and one civilian were wounded as coalition forces successfully repelled ambush attacks in Samarra, Iraq, Nov. 30, a military spokesman said today from Baghdad.

Elements of the 4th Infantry Division – a tank company from 1st Battalion, 66th Armor reinforced with two squads of military police and four squads of infantry – were assigned to provide security to Iraqi Currency Exchange teams as they conducted dinar exchange at two banks in the Iraqi city, said Army Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt, deputy director of operations, Combined Joint Task Force 7.

Around 11 a.m. local time coalition forces reported contact with the enemy with simultaneous explosions of roadside bombs, said Kimmitt. The explosions wounded three coalition soldiers who were treated for shrapnel-related injuries and returned to duty.

When the Iraqi Currency Exchange teams arrived at the Samarra bank, the bank came under small-arms and rocket- propelled-grenade fire from multiple directions, said Kimmitt. The fire was "determined to be coming from windows and roofs of nearby buildings as well as from alleyways and nearby vehicles," he added. Coalition forces returned fire to defeat the enemy. Two coalition soldiers and one ICE team member were wounded, said the general. He estimated 24 of the enemy were killed.

As coalition forces moved north out of the city, they encountered a barricade and enemy fire, with five more enemy killed, Kimmitt said.

At the second bank, in the western part of the city, coalition forces were also attacked with small arms and rocket propelled grenades.

"Initial reports showed at least 12 attackers all armed with AK-47s and RPGs were seen running out and firing on coalition forces from a nearby mosque," said Kimmitt. After engaging this initial wave, the friendly forces also "came under fire from enemy forces who were using nearby roofs, gates and walls as cover," he added.

In a separate incident, in another section of Samarra, four men in a black BMW ambushed another coalition convoy. The coalition returned fire, wounding and capturing all four men, confiscating three AK-47s and two RPGs. Kimmitt said five coalition soldiers received non-life-threatening injuries, while an estimated 54 enemy personnel were killed and another 22 were wounded.

When asked if enemy forces were becoming more sophisticated, Kimmitt replied, "Any enemy looking at eight tanks, four Bradley fighting vehicles and 93 coalition soldiers and still decides to fight is making a dreadful mistake."

What is sophisticated, added Dan Senor, senior CPA spokesperson, is the successful implementation of currency exchange. The campaign was announced in July and implemented in October. Seventy-five percent of the currency is in circulation, he said. "This is an incredible success story – a logistical success story – that is only possible with the cooperation between the coalition and the Iraqi people."

Senor noted that Ambassador L. Paul Bremer, CPA head, continues to work with the Iraqi Governing Council on the implementation of the Nov. 15 political agreement that lays the foundation for a "free, democratic and sovereign Iraq."

"The governing council took two very important steps yesterday (Nov. 30)," he added. This included setting up committees to look at the process in the drafting of the transitional administrative law as well as at the preparations necessary for the process of direct elections for the constitutional convention.

95 posted on 12/01/2003 8:09:26 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: visualops
YOUR post deserves to be stated again...and again....and again...and so here we have it: Seems apparent that civilians colluded with the terrorists. The collusion included prepping the location and setting the stage for the media afterward. Some civilians hurt maybe are just fedayeen out of uniform. If the civilians had tipped off our guys, instead of aiding the enemy, they'd be safe and sound and the bad guys would be dead.

You said it all. Good hit.

96 posted on 12/01/2003 8:26:20 PM PST by Indie (Orwell was only a couple dozen years ahead of his time.)
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To: F.J. Mitchell; archy; Squantos; harpseal; river rat; SLB
So what do those smug SOB's asking for proof of the kill, want our troops to do, take scalps next time?

I think so. Toss the scraps (feet, hands, heads etc) on top of the Brads, and lay them out for the reporters back at base.

97 posted on 12/01/2003 8:29:30 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee
I think so. Toss the scraps (feet, hands, heads etc) on top of the Brads, and lay them out for the reporters back at base.

And then scream "WAR CRIME! WAR CRIME!"

98 posted on 12/01/2003 8:30:59 PM PST by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
So, how much of the money does the bank turn over to the Fedeyeen after the tanks are gone? And what are we doing delivering money to a hostile city?

Now THERE'S a question worth an answer!!!

99 posted on 12/01/2003 8:32:46 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: JSteff
Thanks for your post #47. Clarified everything for me!
100 posted on 12/01/2003 8:39:57 PM PST by tinacart ((I still hate hitlery!!!))
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