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Cleaning up Hugh Hefner's Mess
Christianity Today Magazine ^
| Nov 2003
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Posted on 12/01/2003 3:22:09 PM PST by AreaMan
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This will probably be lost on those people who don't know the difference between libertarian and libertine or think that morality is relative, but I thought I should post it anyway.
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posted on
12/01/2003 3:22:10 PM PST
by
AreaMan
To: AreaMan
read later
To: AreaMan
"This will probably be lost on those people who don't know the difference between libertarian and libertine or think that morality is relative, but I thought I should post it anyway."
Way too many people cannot even see the contradictions in their personal view of the world and their part in it. Relativism - although not often seen in the mainstream press - is in my opinion the most harmful of all philosophies in the past 100 years. And yes, it is a philosophy - it is taught daily by American Universities and organizations like the Landmark Forum (~shivers)
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posted on
12/01/2003 3:33:19 PM PST
by
txzman
(Jer 23:29)
To: AreaMan
ping for later read.
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posted on
12/01/2003 3:43:19 PM PST
by
Recovering_Democrat
(I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
To: AreaMan
Thank you. Printed it out, for closer reading.
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posted on
12/01/2003 3:47:35 PM PST
by
Byron_the_Aussie
(http://www.theinterviewwithgod.com/popup2.html)
To: AreaMan
Hugh Hefner BUMP. The man's a living legend.
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posted on
12/01/2003 3:50:04 PM PST
by
ServesURight
(FReecerely Yours,)
To: AreaMan
I want to personally thank you for posting this rather thought-provoking article on why our culture and society are literally in the sewer.
...This article clearly explains why we now have, among other things, talentless Barbie dolls impersonating actresses and musicians (can you say Britney Spears?). It also clarifies why so many men, both young and old, are unwilling to make lifetime committments to marriage, and why women allow them to get away with it. This is also a comfirmation of what many in the Evangelical community have been saying for years: Pornography is extremely destructive to marriages and families. It cripples sexual relationships by deeming an average woman unacceptable, since it is virtually impossible for most women to either resemble or perform like these Barbarella-type vixens with their big hair and breast implants. In short, Hugh Hefner and his cohorts have done a huge disservice to our nation and communities. Good article.
-Regards, T.
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posted on
12/01/2003 3:51:33 PM PST
by
T Lady
(Who Let the 'RATS Out?!!)
To: AreaMan
[Hugh Hefner]
had trouble finding satisfaction through intercourseAfter all the different women he's been with, I can see how that might be true. (No, I didn't really read that far, just skipped to the end.)
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posted on
12/01/2003 3:55:32 PM PST
by
squidly
To: AreaMan
Porn existed before Playboy. It will continue to exist regardless of how many busybodies shout from their soapboxes. If not Hugh Hefner then it would have been someone else breaking the window.
These people are just envious of Hefner. It's Playboy's 50th anniversary, and they're just looking for an axe to grind. No Hefner bashing on Playboy's 48th or 49th anniversary.
To: T Lady
Did you know that termites never sleep? All they do is eat and make more termites 24/7. In the end they leave what was once an exotic and great looking piece of wood empty on the inside and useless.
Porno is to sexuality what termites are to wood.
(no the pun is not lost on me)
So gentlemen, porno will do to your wood what termites do to real wood.
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posted on
12/01/2003 4:05:01 PM PST
by
AreaMan
To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Porn existed before Playboy. It will continue to exist regardless of how many busybodies shout from their soapboxes. Well hell, murder is probably the oldest practice (a little Cain and Able action) so since it has been around even longer I think we should slough off our antiquated morays about murder. Come to think of it "murder" has such negative connotations associated with it, let's call it...Retroactive Abortion. Now we can have N.R.A.R.L National RetroActive Abortion Rights League. Sounds cool to me. Just in case that is to "extreme" for you how about normalizing...NAMBLA or bestiality. Oh, I know what...how about necrophilia. Since homosexuality is already in our moral rear view mirror we should address the under-represented and almost certainly stigmatized necrophiliac. The same sophmoric and vacuous arguments that are made for the homosexual can be made for the necrophiliac. Hope that's not too extreme for you.
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posted on
12/01/2003 4:15:25 PM PST
by
AreaMan
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To: AreaMan
Exactly. This is what the author of the book, 'Affair Of The Mind' explained happened to her sexual relationship with her husband, due to his secret addiction to pornography. Because this gentleman watched XXX-rated videos and read (?) pornographic magazines, he expected her to emulate the women in question, and when she failed to, he turned to prostitutes, among other things. I cannot presently recall the author's name, but if you go to your local Christian book store, you can probably obtain a copy.
-Regards, T.
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posted on
12/01/2003 4:18:51 PM PST
by
T Lady
(Who Let the 'RATS Out?!!)
To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Porn existed before Playboy. It will continue to exist regardless of how many busybodies shout from their soapboxes.
Well hell, murder is probably the oldest practice (a little Cain and Able action) so since it has been around even longer I think we should slough off our antiquated morays about murder. Come to think of it "murder" has such negative connotations associated with it, let's call it...Retroactive Abortion. Now we can have N.R.A.R.L National RetroActive Abortion Rights League.
Sounds cool to me. Just in case that is to "extreme" for you how about normalizing...NAMBLA or bestiality.
Oh, I know what...how about necrophilia. Since homosexuality is already in our moral rear view mirror we should address the under-represented and almost certainly stigmatized necrophiliac. The same sophmoric and vacuous arguments that are made for the homosexual can be made for the necrophiliac.
Hope that's not too extreme for you.
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posted on
12/01/2003 4:20:58 PM PST
by
AreaMan
To: AreaMan
Is there an escape, a way out, a means by which a woman can choose not to have her social norms and sexual drives dictated by porn culture? If anyone has a good answer for this, I'd love to hear it ... preferably before my kids reach their teens!
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posted on
12/01/2003 4:20:59 PM PST
by
Tax-chick
(It's hard to see the rainbow through glasses dark as these.)
To: AreaMan
Good article.
Hefner is no satan. He's a self centered perpetual adolescent leading a mechanical emotionally sterile superficial life who gets his satisfaction from worship and awe from other per[etual teenages. Hefner's own women not infrequently committed suicide or ended up in psychiatric treatment. The suicide rates among young adults have increased astronomically in this country following Hefner's life style lead.
Hefner, however, was and is, one of the most influential minds of the 20th century, largely because of his creation of the pseudo moral and social cause. It began with his statements of moral imperative to overturn the vestiges of victorian antisexuality which overlooked the nature and motivation of what people practicing that newly constructed moral abstraction were doing on the concrete level.
The mode of thinking has come to dominate the culture. If you want to hump someone and leave them, go on a moral crusade against victorian antisexuality. If you want to kill Terri Schiavro create some kind of moral crusade paralleling death with dignity and kill them. Abortion is an abstract morality of right to choice with babies left out of it. We even have abstract systems of onomics consisting of glittering discription of freedom and choice without lookinf at concrete responsibility and reality of consequences. Hefner won the day and there seems to be no adaquate resistance to his pathological system of thought.
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posted on
12/01/2003 4:22:54 PM PST
by
RLK
To: Prov3456
Ping. Read later.
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posted on
12/01/2003 4:30:49 PM PST
by
Prov3456
To: txzman
All philosophies are taught in American universities.. the student is left to believe or not.. Aquinus, Plato, Aristotle, Hobbes, Kant, they're all wrong in some way. I do not reject moral relativism outright, however.
Different cultures have different morality, so it is absurd for one culture to claim absolute superiority. On the other hand, it is also absurd to say that one is never wrong so long as their culture accepts them. So is there an absolute right and wrong? I don't think so.. our basis for moral criticism lies in conflict between ones own morals and those of others. There are very few morals which are shared by every human in every culture, so where does that leave us?
To: Tax-chick
It's easy....just teach your kids that women like Madonna, Christina, and Britney are sluts.
They dress and act the way they do because they want it and they want it bad.
The same with any school kids who dress that way.
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posted on
12/01/2003 4:32:47 PM PST
by
baltodog
(I'm Polish. I'm left-handed. I'm a drummer. I demand reparations.)
To: AreaMan
Cleaning up Hugh Hefner's Mess
Well, we're gonna need some of this . . .
And quite a bit of this . . .
And likely a couple packages of these . . .
And a few herds of these . . .
And we're gonna need this metrosexual dude to help us.
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posted on
12/01/2003 4:35:20 PM PST
by
Xenalyte
(I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
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