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Why do the NeoCons hate Dixie so?
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35830 ^ | 26 Nov 2003 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 12/01/2003 2:03:13 PM PST by Rebeleye

Why the Hollywood Left hates Dixie is easy to understand. It is conservative, Christian, traditionalist, hostile to the cultural revolution. But why do the neocons? After all, the folks Krauthammer calls "white trash" are the most reliable conservative voters in America, God-and-country people. They enlist in disproportionate numbers in the military, and die in disproportionate numbers in America's wars.

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"Howard Dean wants the white trash vote," wrote Washington Post columnist Charles Krauthammer in recent mockery of the Vermonter. "That's clearly what [Dean] meant when he said he wanted the votes of 'guys with Confederate flags in their pickup trucks.'"

After Dean was savaged by Al Sharpton, who called the Confederate flag an "American swastika," Krauthammer was rhapsodic. His humiliation serves Dean right, Krauthammer chortled. He should never have pandered to Southern "yahoos" and "rebel-yelling racist redneck(s)."

What is it in the wiring of these neocons that they so loathe white Southerners who cherish the monuments, men and memories of the Lost Cause?

Last December, Krauthammer, David Frum and Jonah Goldberg all squabbled noisily over who was first to join the media mob that lynched Trent Lott for his tribute to Sen. Thurmond on Strom's 100th birthday. When Lott lost his leadership post, these neocons rejoiced at his resignation.

In the latest National Review – not your father's NR – an editorial calls the cause of Southern independence, for which Gen. Robert E. Lee fought and "Stonewall" Jackson died, the cause of "slavery and treason."

Why the Hollywood Left hates Dixie is easy to understand. It is conservative, Christian, traditionalist, hostile to the cultural revolution. But why do the neocons? After all, the folks Krauthammer calls "white trash" are the most reliable conservative voters in America, God-and-country people. They enlist in disproportionate numbers in the military, and die in disproportionate numbers in America's wars.

The neocons are pro-Israel. So, too, are these folks who believe in standing by Israel because the Bible tells them so. Yet, when it comes to Southerners who revere the Confederate flag, neocons like Krauthammer echo the Washington Post writer who dismissed Southern white Christians as "poor, uneducated and easy to command."

But even the Post does not use the venom of Krauthammer. Indeed, I never heard George Wallace or Lester Maddox, both of whom I came to know and like late in their lives, use the kind of language on political foes that Krauthammer uses on a whole class of people he doesn't even know.

A point of personal privilege. I have family roots in the South, in Mississippi. When the Civil War came, Cyrus Baldwin enlisted and did not survive Vicksburg. William Buchanan of Okolona, who would marry Baldwin's daughter, fought at Atlanta and was captured by Gen. Sherman's army. William Baldwin Buchanan was the name given to my father and by him to my late brother.

As a member of the Sons of Confederate Veterans, I have been to their gatherings. I spoke at the 2001 SCV convention in Lafayette, La. The Military Order of the Stars and Bars presented me with a battle flag and a wooden canteen like the ones my ancestors carried.

Has Krauthammer ever been to one of these meetings? Has he any knowledge at all of these people he dismisses as "white trash"?

Discussing the Dean-flag issue, one New York Times columnist wrote of the campaign "to remove the Stars and Bars from the top of the South Carolina Statehouse." But it was not the Stars and Bars, first flag of the Confederate States of America, that flew over that statehouse. It was the battle flag of the Confederate army, with the St. Andrew's Cross, on which, tradition holds, the apostle Andrew was crucified.

And that flag atop the statehouse flew beneath Old Glory. What were South Carolinians saying by putting it there? Only this: "We are proud of the bravery of our grandfathers who fought under this blood-stained banner, but we are Americans, and the Stars and Stripes represents our country now and forever." What is wrong with that?

To Krauthammer, the battle flag is a racist symbol. And, yes, it has been used by racists to insult and intimidate. But so, too, has the Christian cross when burned on hillsides. And so, too, has the American flag.

These symbols are abused because they have power. But to Southern kids who put battle flag decals on book bags, their fathers who put replicas on cars and trucks, rural folks who fly the flag in their yards, it does not mean they hate anyone. Rather, it says: "We love our Southern heritage and shall never forget our ancestors who fought and died under this flag."

Late in life, Joshua Chamberlain, the Union hero who won the Medal of Honor for holding Little Round Top when Lee sent the Texans to turn Meade's flank on the second day at Gettysburg, said that whenever he saw that flag, it recalled to him the indomitable courage of the men who had fought under it. At re-enactments of Civil War battles, high-school football games and NASCAR races, the battle flag is ubiquitous across the South.

If Krauthammer and the neocons really believe the only folks who cherish this symbol are "white trash" and "yahoos," that tells us more about them than it does about the South, of which they know nothing.

1 posted on 12/01/2003 2:03:22 PM PST by Rebeleye
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To: Rebeleye
You're a week late.

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2 posted on 12/01/2003 2:06:45 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Rebeleye
Hey Pat - Lott was booted out of the Majority Leader spot because he SUCKED at the job - the Thurmond remarks were just a cover story.

Instead we replaced Lott with a mediocre Senate Majortiy, which is better than a bad one.
3 posted on 12/01/2003 2:07:01 PM PST by Pubbie (Go Ross! Go! - Perot In '04!)
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To: Rebeleye
After all, the folks Krauthammer calls "white trash"

Er, that's what Krauthammer sarcasticly labeled Dean's pandering as.
4 posted on 12/01/2003 2:08:42 PM PST by lelio
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To: Non-Sequitur
Thanks! Sorry, I didn't see it here before.
5 posted on 12/01/2003 2:09:37 PM PST by Rebeleye
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To: lelio
Er, that's what Krauthammer sarcasticly labeled Dean's pandering as.

This humor went past Pat's radar. He was focused on rooting out and identifying "neo-cons." Ya know, "neocons", nudge nudge, wink wink. Not that he finds any other "neo-con" who made a trash statement...but he says they're there...so they must be...Pat likes to speak in codes...

6 posted on 12/01/2003 2:14:52 PM PST by Shermy
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To: Rebeleye
Lincoln has been considered the father of the republican party which would've been the north.Now,the strength of the republican party is in the south,so i ask you,WHO HAS FINALLY WON THE CIVIL WAR?The south is rising again neo-cons!
7 posted on 12/01/2003 2:16:20 PM PST by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: Rebeleye
"But so, too, has the Christian cross when burned on hillsides. And so, too, has the American flag."

They don't like those two either!
8 posted on 12/01/2003 2:22:56 PM PST by SwinneySwitch (Freedom isn't Free - Support those who ensure it!)
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To: Rebeleye
Why do the NeoCons Buchananites hate Dixie NeoCons so?
9 posted on 12/01/2003 2:23:23 PM PST by kevao
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To: Rebeleye
Krauthammer's obvious sarcasm was either intentionally misinterpreted by Pat... or else the silly, irreleveant old Jew-baiter simply isn't capable of reading for comprehension any longer.

Either way: next slide, please. :)

10 posted on 12/01/2003 2:25:18 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("The Clintons have damaged our country. They have done it together, in unison." -- Peggy Noonan)
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To: lelio
Er, that's what Krauthammer sarcasticly labeled Dean's pandering as. Er...not so fast. I heard Krauthammer speak on this subject on Brit's round table and he called Southern guys with Dixie flags on their bumpers white trash. Pure and simple. I hate agreeing with Pat against Krauthammer, but he's right here...and he's not the only conservative commentator (I hate the term neo-con) to issue such invective against southerners either...and they ALL ought to know better. The GOP is dead in the water without white trash like me.
11 posted on 12/01/2003 2:27:03 PM PST by pgkdan
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To: Rebeleye
After all, the folks Krauthammer calls "white trash" are the most reliable conservative voters in America, God-and-country people.

First of all, I didn't know "White Trash" only lived in the South. As a Northerner, I have to say I have known a lot of "White Trash."

They seldom if ever vote and if they do, they most always vote for the Rats on the promise of more government freebees. Some have the Rebel flag on their trucks, houses etc and they don't associate that flag with R.E. Lee and they don't have a frigging clue what states rights means. Some think the flag has something to do with A.) NASCAR, B.) Country Music, C.) Hating Blacks, or any combination of the above.

Not two in a hundred could tell you when the civil war was or even who won the war or that the Rebel flag had something to do with that war. They are ignorant of even recent history let alone events of 150 years ago.

The do not go into the military because they either have not finished high school or their blood streams are loaded with pot or meth or they already have a felony violation of one sort or another. They are not people that the US Armed forces are the least bit interested in.

Pat Buchanan, who grew up in an upper middle class Washington DC neighborhood, studied at elite private schools, and has spent the rest of his life as an elite sheltered from the real America pertends he understands and speaks for the "average American". He sure as hell doesn't speak for this one.

12 posted on 12/01/2003 2:28:26 PM PST by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
an editorial calls the cause of Southern independence, for which Gen. Robert E. Lee fought and "Stonewall" Jackson died, the cause of "slavery and treason."


...and conveniently shoveling state's rights, face it NR, under the table.

13 posted on 12/01/2003 2:30:01 PM PST by glock rocks (molon labe)
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To: INSENSITIVE GUY
Now,the strength of the republican party is in the south,so i ask you,WHO HAS FINALLY WON THE CIVIL WAR?

Did you consider that may have something to do with the millions of Northerners who moved to the south over the last 50 years and brought a two party system with them?

Hmmmmmm?

14 posted on 12/01/2003 2:31:44 PM PST by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: Pubbie
Hey Pat - Lott was booted out of the Majority Leader spot because he SUCKED at the job - the Thurmond remarks were just a cover story.

Maybe, maybe not. But it is you who have missed Pat's point. Those whom he has attacked, went out of their way to attack Lott precisely as to the Thurmond remarks; tried to clearly distance themselves, not from Lott's influence--or lack of it--in the Republican Party, but from the influences that Thurmond brought into the Republican Party--the influences which led to Republican majorities--when he switched parties in 1964.

Lott was symbolic, and his personal weakness under fire was simply exploited by those who wanted to make an anti-Southern statement.

See Anatomy Of A Smear, for more on the whole Lott affair.

William Flax

15 posted on 12/01/2003 2:38:41 PM PST by Ohioan
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To: Ditto
Did you consider that may have something to do with the millions of Northerners who moved to the south over the last 50 years and brought a two party system with them?

No, actually.

White, socially conservative Democrats became socially conservative Republicans after the Democrats moved left starting with JFK.

16 posted on 12/01/2003 2:40:59 PM PST by wardaddy ("either the arabs are at your throat, or at your feet")
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To: Ditto
Not on your life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
17 posted on 12/01/2003 2:42:57 PM PST by cksharks
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To: Ditto
Well said!
18 posted on 12/01/2003 2:46:38 PM PST by lonevoice (Legal disclaimer: The above is MY OPINION)
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To: wardaddy
"White, socially conservative Democrats became socially conservative Republicans after the Democrats moved left starting with JFK."

Funny that it didn't start when Democrats moved left with Wilson. Or when it moved way farther left with FDR. But that old tax cutter JFK just drove em right into the Republican party.
19 posted on 12/01/2003 2:51:34 PM PST by hirn_man
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To: hirn_man
Funny that it didn't start when Democrats moved left with Wilson. Or when it moved way farther left with FDR. But that old tax cutter JFK just drove em right into the Republican party.

Wilson lost his way on foreign policy, but he was not really a Leftist. Certainly FDR became one, after taking office, but he certainly did not go so far as Kennedy and the "New Frontier." Roosevelt never put 23,600 troops into a Southern College Town of 5,000, to force social changes.

But, in point of fact, the single most important event in the party switch, was Strom Thurmond's decision to change parties, as a show of support for Barry Goldwater. It was Thurmond who began the process of delivering the Old South to the Republicans, and Goldwater was the spark that lit the fuse.

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

20 posted on 12/01/2003 3:02:47 PM PST by Ohioan
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