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"TERRORISTS IN IRAQ ARE COUNTING ON AMERICAN **IMPATIENCE**" -- Good Read
Town Hall (Conservative Site) ^ | 1 December 2003 | Herbert London

Posted on 12/01/2003 1:53:44 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo

The Nexus of Culture and Foreign Policy

By Herbert London

In policy disputes culture – however ambiguously defined – trumps most other characteristics including money, enthusiasm, even courage. By culture I’m referring to the habits of mind that are cultivated by the institutions in a given society.

If one relies on a Tocquevillian interpretation of national character, the U.S. he observed was a nation that encouraged liberty and individualism, but it also fostered associations and communal ties. More recently, David Putman argued that Americans have been so seduced by television viewing they are accustomed to watching alone and “bowling alone”. The venerated historian David Potter maintained that affluence permitted the expression of liberty. Obviously America means different things to different people. One condition however, is increasingly apparent in the national profile: impatience. This is a cultural trait borne of affluence and enhanced by freedom. The ability to move quickly from place to place and the exchange of ideas from one side of the globe to the other in real time have given Americans the sense that if it isn’t happening instantly, it isn’t happening at all.

There simply is not time for reflection. Americans are on the move literally and figuratively. Channel surfing is a national sport; a television producer must capture an audience in the first ten seconds. A newspaper story must grab the reader in the first paragraph.

If you deliver information on a computer, impatience is what you cater to. But even hackers grow impatient if broadband and speedy DSL aren’t available. Computer users demand speed; the faster, the better. Yet there is a downside to impatience. Americans may have lost staying power. Although President Bush made it clear after 9/11 that the war on terrorism would take years, after several months the American people are starting to stir.

The relatively rapid success in the Iraq war led inexorably to a belief in a relatively rapid peaceful withdrawal. Democratic presidential candidates have engaged in a continual drumbeat for the departure of American troops. And, as one might guess, the American people are jumping to the beat.

Since the economy is growing at a rate faster than most analysts predicted, Iraq is the only issue Democratic hopefuls have left. They also realize that implicit appeals to impatience may pay off. Clearly the president’s popularity is waning and most of this decline is related to his handling of events in Iraq. If one were to consider conditions dispassionately, what is most needed at the moment is patience, an awareness that staying the course is necessary. Terrorists in Iraq are counting on American impatience. They assume that casualties and bombing will weaken American resolve. They assume as well that political considerations militate against sustained commitment.

In fact, there is now a test of wills. President Bush contends U.S. forces will not be forced to leave Iraq. Conversely, several Democratic candidates have called for immediate withdrawal and others have come close to suggesting this as well.

Should impatience prevail, the consequences would be disastrous for American interests. The terrorists would be emboldened; the U.S. would be seen as “a paper tiger: - a claim often used by the terrorists. Clearly the advocates for withdrawal are playing with fire. But do they realize a condition the president overlooks? Perhaps Americans cannot stay the course. Perhaps the culture of affluence has produced an impatience for anything but immediate success.

I would hope that these suppositions are wrong, but I wonder. Already the vision of the attack on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon has faded from the national memory. I hear students asking why we have detained suspected terrorists in Guantanano so long. The New York Times, a bell weather of liberal opinion, editorializes about the need for Iraqi withdrawal. There appears to be a nexus between impatience and the demands on America foreign policy. With luck, the U.S. may be able to withdraw and seamlessly transfer authority to a stable Iraqi government. After all, one should hope for the best.

Realism, however, dictates consideration of another scenario in which cultural imperatives insist on premature departure. I earnestly hope I am wrong; yet there is a nagging suspicion that a nation accustomed to instant coffee, quick acting drugs, immediate gratification may not be ready for a long drawn out war. Patience is a virtue, but impatience may now be an overarching national characteristic.

Herbert London is president of the Hudson Institute and John M. Olin professor of humanities of the New York University, publisher of American Outlook and author of "Decade of Denial," recently published by Lexington Books. He's reachable through www.benadorassociates.com.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; bigpicture; bush; culture; democrats; guerilla; iraq; longterm; patience; psywar; saddam; tactics; terrorism; us; victory; war
Throw in an ounce of opportunistic and cynical American liberal media promoting impatience 24/7, shake together, and -- voila!

The enemy seems to know us pretty well. They may have some slick advisors in US academia, who knows?

But do "WE" truly know "US"?

1 posted on 12/01/2003 1:53:46 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Another Bendor Associates hack?

LOL

Reads like a Stalinist screed railing against affluence and urging ever more sacrifice towards an ever closer victory.

2 posted on 12/01/2003 1:58:48 PM PST by JohnGalt (How few were left who had seen the Republic!---Tacitus)
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To: JohnGalt
It made you uncomfortable.
3 posted on 12/01/2003 2:00:26 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (NORTH KOREA is a DANGEROUS CANCER in late stages; we still only meditate and take herbal medicines)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
If this idiot is just waking up to the fact that Americans tend to have a short attention span, I wonder why he supported the war in the first place? Does he hate his country and its people?

That he is all to willing to sacrifice someone else's kid or send off another teenage girl to act as human bait, just makes me think he is what Ann Coulter referred to as a girly man.
4 posted on 12/01/2003 2:04:58 PM PST by JohnGalt (How few were left who had seen the Republic!---Tacitus)
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To: JohnGalt
Nothing inherently wrong with affluence. It's all how you handle it in your brain and if you stay 'sharp and hungry' or not, as a result. That's what I think this author says, and I would like to see a counter argument that this is not going to be a problem for us over the protracted long haul.

Some of the most impatient Americans I have come across haven't a trace of affluence. Visited a Democrat-laden trailer park recently? Experienced the atmosphere of 'patience' and 'concentrated, strategic thinking'?

5 posted on 12/01/2003 2:06:20 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (NORTH KOREA is a DANGEROUS CANCER in late stages; we still only meditate and take herbal medicines)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Hillary Clinton is only the latest of many Democrats to urge that the U.N. be given a larger role in postwar Iraq. Of course, neither she nor her Democratic colleagues have explained how we would go about doing this, given that the U.N. has largely pulled up stakes and abandoned Iraq until the security situation is improved. By us.

More fundamental, however, is the fact that the U.N. is essentially hostile to American interests and values. It would be unprecedented in human history for a nation to cede control over its foreign policy, voluntarily, to a hostile group of foreign nations.

For statistical proof of how antagonistic the United Nations is to our interests, see this article titled "U.N. General Assembly Voting Habits" by Fred Gedrich of the Freedom Alliance. Gedrich uses as raw material the State Department report on U.N. voting practices which Congress requires the Department to produce; here are the figures for 2002:

"187 UN General Assembly members, out of 90 votes cast, voted against U.S. positions by a 69 percent to 31 percent margin on issues such as terrorism, arms control, human rights and the Middle East.

"The 114 members of the Non-aligned Movement voted against U.S. supported positions 78 percent of the time. This group includes all the world’s dictatorships and terrorist states. It considers Cuba’s Castro, Libya’s Gadhafi and Syria’s Assad heroes.

"The 22 members of the League of Arab States voted against U.S. supported positions 83 percent of the time.

"The 56 members of the Islamic Conference voted against U.S. supported positions 79 percent of the time. "The 53 members of the African Union voted against U.S. supported positions 80 percent of the time.

"And what about votes cast by the United States so-called European Union friends? These 15 weak-kneed allies collectively voted against the United States more than 50 percent of the time."

Are there any bright spots in the State Department report? One, at least: Israel voted with the U.S. 93% of the time.

As the Democrats try to find grounds to criticize President Bush with admitting that what they really want is to abandon the war on terror altogether, they will likely focus on "greater cooperation with the U.N." as a campaign mantra. Putting aside that President Bush has, if anything, invested too much time and energy in trying to secure the cooperation of the U.N., the Democrats should be confronted with the reality that the U.N. is, as Gedrich describes it, a "morally bankrupt and corrupt institution because it serves as a safe haven and mouthpiece for some of the world’s most sinister forces."

Why on God's green earth should we allow a hostile organization to dictate our foreign policy?

6 posted on 12/01/2003 2:07:32 PM PST by MrFreedom
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To: JohnGalt
I believe you have yet to argue the article based on it's merits (or demerits), using refutational logic, but instead, seem to engage in blanket ad hominem.
7 posted on 12/01/2003 2:08:13 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (NORTH KOREA is a DANGEROUS CANCER in late stages; we still only meditate and take herbal medicines)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
If the author believes half of what he is writing, he would have to support a policy of bringing the 'boys back home' and focus on an internal solution (closed borders, decentralized government, radically reduced size of government, a well-armed citizenry...) to the problem rather than an external solution (build welfare states in the Middle East.)

It's the difference between loving your country and loathing it.

I think he is just a hack who gets a speaking fee from Bendor Associates.
8 posted on 12/01/2003 2:10:16 PM PST by JohnGalt (How few were left who had seen the Republic!---Tacitus)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
That's just Stage 1.

Stage II is where he will inform you that you are not a conservative.

9 posted on 12/01/2003 2:11:06 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: MrFreedom
I don't know. You tell me.

I would quite agree.

The topic of discussion here, though, is an external, critical observation of national characteristics, or cultural traits, such as 'impatience' and how they might resonate in the general populace, and serve as an achilles heel, much to the delight of savage enemies in the field not to mention opportunistic Democrats and liberal, whiny, defeatist media at home.

10 posted on 12/01/2003 2:11:09 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (NORTH KOREA is a DANGEROUS CANCER in late stages; we still only meditate and take herbal medicines)
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To: JohnGalt
Fine. John. Whatever.

I can see you cannot see it.

PS, you are eloquent. Did you speak for them at some time --- and then not get paid for it?

11 posted on 12/01/2003 2:12:42 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (NORTH KOREA is a DANGEROUS CANCER in late stages; we still only meditate and take herbal medicines)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
I sell software; this guy economic situation is supported by holding certain ideas.

And you sir, are drinkin' what they're selling...
12 posted on 12/01/2003 2:17:57 PM PST by JohnGalt (How few were left who had seen the Republic!---Tacitus)
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To: JohnGalt
Thank you John. But you disappointed me. Thanks again.
13 posted on 12/01/2003 2:19:24 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (NORTH KOREA is a DANGEROUS CANCER in late stages; we still only meditate and take herbal medicines)
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To: JohnGalt
If the author believes half of what he is writing, he would have to support a policy of bringing the 'boys back home' and focus on an internal solution (closed borders, decentralized government, radically reduced size of government, a well-armed citizenry...) to the problem rather than an external solution (build welfare states in the Middle East.)

Respectfully, I just don't understand your mindset. Since the Brits burnt Washington D.C. down to the ground during the War of 1812, our basic strategy in defending America has been to never fight a war on American soil. That is what the Monroe Doctrine was all about. Given that this strategy has produced undeniable benefits for the country for almost 200 years, why would you want to change our basic war strategy by playing defense rather than offense? Why would you want to fight the war with militant Islam here rather than in the Middle East where the militants are located?

15 posted on 12/01/2003 2:33:01 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: Big Midget
The seed of impatience is a different value system attached toward the concept of "time". This is different in each culture. Some of the most long-term and patient thinkers and strategists I know of come from Asia, particularly Japan and China. Some of the most short-term and impatient thinkers I know come from my own country. It isn't an accident, IMHO.

In other words, 'Impatience' is largely rooted in 'short-term thinking'.

Short-term/mindset and long-term thinking/mindset each have their positives.

Short-term thinking/mindset is what probably makes Americans the best perhaps on the Earth when it comes to 911 (the telephone code) type emergency responses.

But it is the general deficiency in long-term thinking that causes many us to be the first companies to pull out of a foreign market if we don't immediately eek a profit, or to cut and run after getting worn down over months or years of fighting without clear cut results.

The seeds of impatience, again, short-term thinking and expectations, is what the current, popular US country song is all about. It points up I believe precisely to that which the article alludes.

"Have You Forgotten?" by Darryl Worley

"(I) hear people saying we don't need this war I say there's some things worth fighting for What about our freedom and this piece of ground We didn't get to keep 'em by backing down Now they say we don't realize the mess we're getting in Before you start your preaching let me ask you this my friend Have you forgotten how it felt that day? To see your homeland under fire And her people blown away Have you forgotten when those towers fell? We had neighbors still inside going thru a living hell And you say we shouldn't worry 'bout bin Laden Have you forgotten? They took all the footage off my T.V. Said it's too disturbing for you and me It'll just breed anger that's what the experts say If it was up to me I'd show it everyday Some say this country's just out looking for a fight Well after 9/11 man I'd have to say that's right Have you forgotten how it felt that day? To see your homeland under fire And her people blown away Have you forgotten when those towers fell? We had neighbors still inside going thru a living hell And you say we shouldn't worry 'bout bin Laden Have you forgotten? Now I've been there with the soldiers Who've gone away to war And you can bet that they remember Just what they're fightin' for Have you forgotten all the people killed? Some went down like heros in that Pennsylvania field Have you forgotten about our Pentagon? And all the loved ones that we lost and those left to carry on Don't you tell me not to worry about bin Laden Have you forgotten? Have you forgotten how it felt that day? To see your homeland under fire And her people blown away Have you forgotten when those towers fell? We had neighbors still inside going thru a living hell And you say we shouldn't worry 'bout bin Laden Have you forgotten? Have you forgotten? Have you forgotten?"

16 posted on 12/01/2003 2:46:44 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (NORTH KOREA is a DANGEROUS CANCER in late stages; we still only meditate and take herbal medicines)
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To: vbmoneyspender; Big Midget; JohnGalt; AmericanInTokyo
The essay is more facile than profound. Anyone can see America's enemies play our national politics (and international anti-Americanism) like violins.

We are between the complacency stage and apathy stage in the fall of our Western Civilization. As long as we continue to get our nightly meds, we will continue to unloose our grip on our vigilance.

17 posted on 12/01/2003 3:03:33 PM PST by NutCrackerBoy
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To: vbmoneyspender
If fighting this war means debt financing, reduced liberties, debased currency and sending teenage girls from West Virginia into battle, then what exactly is the point?

Those are not the actions of a morally healthy country, but one in the late stages of decline, as grotesque as the era of bread and circuses during the decline of Rome.
18 posted on 12/02/2003 6:11:57 AM PST by JohnGalt (How few were left who had seen the Republic!---Tacitus)
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