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To: presidio9
Government outlays are not "income."

They're income for those who work for government, or get paid by government for goods and services.

16 posted on 12/01/2003 8:43:52 AM PST by liberallarry
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To: liberallarry
They're income for those who work for government, or get paid by government for goods and services.

But that's not what you were talking about Larry.

17 posted on 12/01/2003 8:46:58 AM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: liberallarry
And that income comes from where? Government does not create wealth, never has, never will. The financial state of California is the direct result of socialistic policies implemented by Sacramento. One cannot continue to place more and more demands on business and tax payers without consequences. Current policies in the State of CA are about the most anti business you will ever see.
18 posted on 12/01/2003 8:50:16 AM PST by stylin_geek (Koffi: 0, G.W. Bush: (I lost count))
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To: liberallarry
And that income comes from where? Government does not create wealth, never has, never will. The financial state of California is the direct result of socialistic policies implemented by Sacramento. One cannot continue to place more and more demands on business and tax payers without consequences. Current policies in the State of CA are about the most anti business you will ever see.
19 posted on 12/01/2003 8:50:20 AM PST by stylin_geek (Koffi: 0, G.W. Bush: (I lost count))
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To: liberallarry
[Government outlays are] ... income for those who work for government, or get paid by government for goods and services.

Ya know, Larry, all cash outlays, government sector or private sector, represent income to someone. In tough economic times, the private sector reduces its cash outlays as needed to stay economically viable: businessess cut spending (capitalized and expensed purchases, wages, staff, benefits, etc.), individuals cut spending too.

Government is the only entity in the economy that NEVER cuts spending. (No, cuts in rates of growth are not cuts in spending.)

While cutting government programs puts some individuals in difficult economic straits, those individuals are no different than individuals in the private sector, nor should they be. Employment by a government or a government subsidized should NEVER considered a guarantee of permanent employment with insulation from economic downturns. That's a breach of the fiduciary trust over the "public's" hard-earned money (not to mention that it is a recipe for financial disaster: eg. California.)

As for your property value...

...give me a break!

I seem to have missed that section of the Constitution, Public and Common Law the somehow obligate government to protect property values.

31 posted on 12/01/2003 9:22:06 AM PST by Dimples
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To: liberallarry
They're income for those who work for government, or get paid by government for goods and services.

They are paid for, as taxes, by those who work in the private sector.

94 posted on 12/01/2003 4:13:00 PM PST by elbucko
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