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Panetta Warning Reveals Widening Dean-Clinton Rift
NewsMax.com ^ | 11/30/2003 | Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

Posted on 11/30/2003 9:22:53 PM PST by NewLand

Sunday, Nov. 30, 2003 10:19 p.m. EST
Panetta Warning Reveals Widening Dean-Clinton Rift

Yet another Clinton insider is openly criticizing his party's presidential front-runner, Howard Dean, warning Democrats that the ex-Vermont governor is far too liberal to defeat President Bush in next year's election.

"There clearly are concerns about Dean's ability to appeal to the entire country, particularly on national security issues," former White House Chief of Staff Leon Panetta told the Washington Times on Friday.

"How can you compete with President Bush on the national security front? There is some concern about whether Dean can rise to the occasion on this issue," Panetta told the paper.

In his warning about Gov. Dean, Panetta hinted that he was carrying a message authored by his former boss, ex-President Bill Clinton. The former White House chief of staff acknowledged that he speaks regularly with the ex-president, who is said to be concerned about Dean's candidacy.

Panetta's comments follow closely on the heels of an attack on Dean by top Hillary Clinton strategist Harold Ickes, who complained to Time magazine two weeks ago that the Vermont governor was "quick of lip, and quick of temper and stubborn."

Ickes also criticized Dean for repeatedly telling audiences that he wants to win support from Southerners who drive pick-up trucks sporting Confederate flags, grousing, "In another time, the Confederate-flag story would have taken him down the drain."

The deepening opposition within the Clinton camp to the candidate least likely to beat Bush has confounded those who say the former first couple actually want Democrats to lose in 2004 in order to give Mrs. Clinton a better chance to win the White House herself by running for an open seat in 2008.

Some say the Clintons' anti-Dean maneuvering shows one of two things:

Either they actually want to see Democrats win in 2004 [a development that would shut down Mrs. Clinton's presidential ambitions till 2012]. Or Bill and Hillary are stacking the deck for a presidential draft sometime before next July's Democratic convention.


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To: river rat
And now --- if they draft Hillary! at the convention - Dean and his leftists will run him as an Independent and split the Liberal/Marxist/Communist/Socialist/Hate America crowd and lose BIG TIME this go around..

Be still my beating heart.

41 posted on 12/01/2003 6:34:39 AM PST by CaptainK
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To: NewLand; jla; WorkingClassFilth; All

Panetta's comments follow closely on the heels of an attack on Dean by top Hillary Clinton strategist Harold Ickes, who complained to Time magazine two weeks ago that the Vermont governor was "quick of lip, and quick of temper and stubborn."

Panetta Warning Reveals Widening Dean-Clinton Rift


...as opposed to???

 

"She is angry. Not all the time.
But most of the time."

author Gail Sheehy
Hillary's Choice
(New York: Random House, 1999) p. 11

"[Hillary Clinton] is in a perpetual
state of suspended anger...."

former Clinton adviser to author Gail Sheehy
Hillary's Choice
(New York: Random House, 1999) p. 139

"Hillary hit him between the eyes. She was angrier than Paul had ever seen her. 'You f**king Jew bastard!' she screamed."

author Jerry Oppenheimer
quoting campaign aide Paul Fray
State of a Union
(New York: Harper-Collins, 2000) p. 153

[W]hen White House Counsel... Abner Mikva finally bowed to the law and delivered subpoenaed documents, she and her White House scandal team lashed at him with such a vicious streak of humiliating profanity that he resigned.

Barbara Olson
Hell to Pay
(Washington, D.C.: Regnery, 1999) p. 5

"Anyone that stood up... was smashed down and belittled,very personally. [N]ot only would she sort of humiliate you in front of your colleagues or whoever happened to be around, Hillary tended to kind of campaign against people behind their back, and that was certainly my experience."

former Clinton press secretary Dee Dee Myers
PBS Frontline, 16 Jan 2001
The Clinton Years

Longtime Hillary aide Carolyn Huber, who saved Mrs. Clinton's buns in 1996 with a convenient cover story about how her mysterious Rose Law Firm billing records magically appeared in the White House book room, described the former first lady's fits of rage to Sheehy as nearly lethal. "The person on the receiving end never gets over it," Huber remembered, reportedly shivering as she spoke those words.

Hillary's Scheme
(New York: Crown Forum, 2003) p. 88
Hillary's Choice
(New York: Random House, 1999) p. 11

The rages continued even after Mrs. Clinton took up residence in the White House, where she blew up at a Secret Service agent for declining to carry her bags. When the agent explained that he needed to keep his hands free in order to protect her, she replied, "If you want to remain on this detail, get your f**king ass over here and grab those bags."

Joyce Milton
First Partner
(New York: William Morrow, 1999) p. 259

 

clinton's tin ear, foul mouth and malignant essence are legendary.
Her empty head should be.
I doubt that she gets it, even now.

I am reminded of the final scene in "The Dead Zone."

Christopher Walken unmasks a narcissistic politico running for the Senate (aptly played by Martin Sheen) as the dangerous, self-serving demagogue that he is.

The dangerous demagogue, realizing that he's finished, blows himself away... a perfect ending....

The only problem with this analogy is that clinton is--both clintons are--far too self-absorbed to see the cooked goose beyond their collective fat a$$... and too craven to do anything about it, in any case....

 

  ABOUT FACE
His rage...
Her rage...
A distinction without
a difference.

The clintons are ignoble,
narcissistic,
craven, gutless
and full of rage.
As are all rapists....



Poetic justice in the end.
The clintons will become prisoners
-- Cartesian and Freudian --
of their own depravity.

Imprisoned in the hermetic confines
of an evil, narcissistic life,

their world will finally and fittingly
become as small as they,
themselves, are.




hillary's Treasonous Turkeybump

Who in his right mind would ever want the clintons back in the Oval Office?
More to the point:
Who in his right mind would ever want the treasonous clintons unconfined?

hillary talks update
(schemes and themes)


missus clinton's REAL virtual office update
http://hillarytalks.blogspot.com
http://virtualhillary.blogspot.com
http://virtualclintonlibrary.blogspot.com
http://www.hillarytalks.us
http://www.hillarytalks.org
fiendsofhillary.blogspot.com
fiendsofhillary.us
fiendsofhillary.org
fraudsofhillary.com
 

hillary talks: ON STANDING BY MY MAN

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hillary talks: ON VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN

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hillary talks: ON CHINA

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hillary talks: On White House Coverups

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hillary talks: ON CLINTON "FINANCES"

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hillary talks: ON PREDATORS

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hillary talks: On White House Intimidation

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hillary talks: ON TRAVEL OFFICE

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hillary talks: On White House "ministering"

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hillary talks: On Ethnic Slurs

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hillary talks: L'Etat, c'est moi! (Iowa parsed)

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hillary talks: On Terror

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copyright Mia T 2003




Lib Author Regrets Voting (TWICE!) for clinton
"Sickened" by clinton's Failure to Protect America from Terrorism


MUST-READ BOOK FOR DEMOCRATS:
How clintons' Failures Unleashed Global Terror



The Man Who Warned America
(Why a Rapist is Not a Fit President)


UDAY: "The end is near… this time I think the… Americans are serious, Bush is not like Clinton."


eyes wide shut (she knew… she raped, too)


A '68 Mustang is not exculpatory

missus clinton's REAL virtual office update


Q ERTY8BUMP


42 posted on 12/01/2003 7:04:42 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: NewLand
Ickes also criticized Dean for repeatedly telling audiences that he wants to win support from Southerners who drive pick-up trucks sporting Confederate flags, grousing, "In another time, the Confederate-flag story would have taken him down the drain."

Ahhhh........the waning days of political correctness......

43 posted on 12/01/2003 7:13:10 AM PST by Liz
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To: NewLand
DEAN - MCGOVERN
44 posted on 12/01/2003 7:14:30 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: NewLand
What is interesting to point out, is that when Dean loses or suffers an 'accident' ala Vince Foster, Terry McAWFULiffe will still be in charge of the Demoncratic party. LOL
45 posted on 12/01/2003 8:36:39 AM PST by Pagey (Hillary Rotten is a Smug and Holier- than- Thou Socialist)
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To: Pagey
In 2004 it will be a Hillary/Dean ticket. Dean is raising the funds and combined with Hillary's money they will have enough to offset Bush's warchest.

McAwful will present Dean with an offer he cannot refuse. Either support Hillary or you will never work in this town again. Dean will be reminded of Vince Foster, Ron Brown and several files that have never been recovered.

At the convention, once vote after vote does not determine which candidate is capable of beating Bush, Dean, in the name of creating party unity will nominate Hillary. The convention will go nuts and in showing that he is a team player, everyone agrees that Dean should be on the ticket with Hill.

The concept here is that Hillary will take a more moderate stance(Irag/Afghan) Dean will play to the far left (Antiwar), hence uniting a Democratic party under a moderate, which in reality is the only way the RATS can compete in 2004.

The Medicare bill was passed for one and one reason only. This is the only issue that Hillary could run and possibly win on and it was taken out of her mouth. Florida is still the swing state and with this bill, Bush will easily win Florida.

Conclusion: Hillary, after giving up the Senate to run for President, will sue NY state so that she can get her seat back. The liberal judiciary will agree and once again Senator Clinton will be Senator from NY, working on a 2008 run for President.



46 posted on 12/01/2003 11:20:22 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz
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To: NewLand
Either they actually want to see Democrats win in 2004 [a development that would shut down Mrs. Clinton's presidential ambitions till 2012]. Or Bill and Hillary are stacking the deck for a presidential draft sometime before next July's Democratic convention.

Either way, the Clinton's are obviously concerned only with Hillary's run at the Presidency-when's the DNC going to figure out that the Clintons' only loyalty is to themselves?
47 posted on 12/01/2003 11:24:21 AM PST by Spok
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To: Mia T; All
Excellent referencing in Post #42, Mia T.
48 posted on 12/01/2003 1:07:36 PM PST by jla (http://hillarytalks.blogspot.com)
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