US troops kill 46 Iraqis trying to ambush them in central Iraq

Nov. 30, 2003

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

FN Alert:

 

Banner: US forces kill 46 Iraqis trying to ambush them in central Iraq.

 

Steve Centanni: 46 Iraqis were killed and 8 others were taken captive.

 

 

 

Across wire:

4th Infantry Division repelled multiple ambush attacks, at least 18 Iraqi attackers, 5 US soldiers were wounded. No reported deaths.

[LoudRepublicangirl]

So, they could all be caught wearing Tommy Hilfiger jeans and shirts and it would not be considered a uniform?

[duckbutt]

Heard about this coming home from grocery shopping on my local ABC affiliate - WMAL. The announcer said the US had taken 8 "hostages". I foamed at the mouth and yelled at the radio - -they're "POWs, you s**t for brains!"

feh.....

[MEG33]

Great job by the 4thID!

[Dog]

I wear a uniform to work....think the Geneva Convention recognizes a produce clerks uniform.....:-)

[Right_in_Virginia]

Yes, but I think this is a branch..led by Saddam's dead little boys....let's see how this plays out.

They weren't soldiers...they were Saddam's internal "police" force used to fill mass graves and keep the tyranny heat on high.

They were used to protect Saddam's interests from an internal uprising...not a uniformed military recognized by the Geneva Convention.

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

People will argue that it counts. Just like the SS uniform counted. Now whether it should count is quite another story.

[CROSSHIGHWAYMAN]

The fedayeen is coming out of the woodwork. Maybe we are getting close to their lover, Sadam.

Sounds like that great general. Saddam Hussein, wanted to have a big payday to counter Bush's visit.

Backfired BIGTIME............we'll get him by Jan. 1.

[SAMWolf]

Good! 46 less scum bags in the world.

[saquin]

People, the "uniform", "POW" issue is a red herring. The article I read said that some were wearing the "attire" of the Fedayeen. I don't think that constitutes a uniform and they are not a regular army. As I understand it, it just indicated to our troops that they may have been Fedayeen (maybe they were wearing all black, etc) but it has no bearing on POW status, or Geneva Convention rules.

[Dog]

You know you are right.....I forgot about that visit.

[mystery-ak]

Has the US classified them as irregulars?

[jimbo123]

The Fedayeen "uniform" BS is all Hitlery/DNC spin.

[radu]

Hey I was watching football.

And we're supposed to accept that as an excuse? *g*

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

Wonder if the 4th AD was getting close to Saddam? Just a thought...

Good thought.

Recent reports:

CENTCOM: November 26, 2003
Release Number: 03-11-45


ASSOCIATES OF IZZAT IBRAHIMAL-DURI CAPTURED DURING RAID

SAMARRA, Iraq – 4th Infantry Division soldiers, also known as “Task Force Ironhorse” received information indicating that the wife and supporters of Izzat Ibrahimal-Duri, a senior official in Saddam Hussein’s former regime, was hiding in the city of Samarra. Ibrahimal-Duri is currently #6 on the Defense Intelligence Agency Blacklist.

At approximately 11:00 a.m., Nov. 25, soldiers raided a building in Samarra and detained three people including Ibrahimal-Duri’s wife. Ibrahimal-Duri’s daughter and his physician’s son were also detained. There is no indication that Ibrahimal-Duri was in the vicinity.

The detained individuals are being held for questioning at this time.

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CENTCOM: November 25, 2003
Release Number: 03-11-42

4 ID PATROLS NET MORE WEAPONS, EXPLOSIVES

TIKRIT, Iraq – 4th Infantry Division also known as “Task Force Ironhorse” has over the past 24 hours, conducted 199 patrols, seven raids and captured 18 individuals.

One of those captured was wanted for anti-coalition activity. Thirty-three of the patrols were joint operations conducted with the Iraqi Police, the Iraqi Civil Defense Corps and the Border Guard in an effort to continually improve the safety and standard of living for the Iraqi people.

Weapons and equipment confiscated in raids and patrols throughout the Task Force Ironhorse area of operation include (17) AK-47 assault rifles, one machine gun, (11) rifles, one pistol, three rocket propelled grenade launchers, (24) rocket propelled grenades, (53) grenades, (50) blasting caps, 6 containers of artillery propellant, (60) 120mm and (250) 60mm mortar rounds, (10) blocks of C4 explosives, (10) sticks of TNT, (50) mortar fuses, (40) spools of wire, used to detonate improvised explosive devices and five improvised explosive devices.

[HiJinx]

46 dead, 18 wounded, and 8 captured for a total of 72 that didn't get away. How many ambushes, I wonder?

[mystery-ak]

I understand all that..I just want to know what the US classifies them as..

[jimbo123]

Yes. They have been classifed as irregulars. Sometimes they dress as women. Sometimes they dress as Americans. Sometimes they dress like Ninjas. But they're terrorists and have been classified as such. Hitler, the DNC and ACLU can cry all they want, but the Fedayeen Saddam been classified as irregulars from the beginning of the campaign.

[night reader]

Bad day for the bad guys.

Conversely, good day for the good guys.

[saquin]

Also, some are saying "8 captured". It's actually 26 captured. 18 were wounded and presumably captured, and 8 were captured unhurt.

That also makes the size of the force (dead + wounded/captured + unhurt/captured) at least 72. Wow! And that doesn't count any who might have gotten away. That was one huge coordinated attack and that's somewhat worrisome. But... it's better that they attack our troops in this way (rather than roadside bombs) because when they fight us in the open like this, these are fights our guys will win.

[pctech]

IT'S ABOUT FREAKING TIME!!!!!!!