"At our age, you tend not to let the grass grow under your feet," says Athans, 42. Stabenow, D-Mich., is 53.
Athans doesn't waste time at work either. For about a year, he's been running a new nonprofit group, Democracy Radio, that says it seeks to restore balance to talk radio. The group's goal is to create and promote programs that bring what it calls a "progressive" perspective to the airwaves.
Here's what the (left-leaning) Boston Phoenix had to say.
(Note: Al Franken FUNNY? Er....)
Left side of the dial
All this and Barry Crimmins, too: Liberal radio gears up for the post-Rush era
BY DAN KENNEDY
NETWORK STAR? Al Franken manages the difficult feat of being funny, substantive, and self-deprecating all at the same time.
THEY SAY THAT timing is everything. So if youre one of the folks involved with Central Air that rather secretive group seeking to start a liberal radio network sometime next spring youve got to love what was on Rush Limbaughs Web site earlier this week.
With one easy click, you could watch a clip of the right-wing blowhards lawyer, Roy Black, being interviewed on NBCs Today show. The subject: the ongoing investigation into Limbaughs drug problems. The spin: Rush is not a criminal! The subliminal message: the Excellence in Broadcasting Network sure isnt what it used to be.
But if Limbaugh, the long-time king of conservative talk, sits on an uneasy throne these days, it is nevertheless by no means certain that the public is clamoring for a liberal alternative. Conservative talk succeeds because the hosts whether they be Sean Hannity and Bill OReilly on the national scene or Jay Severin and Howie Carr locally manage to create a sense of grievance, an atmosphere that it is they and their listeners who are the outsiders, and the liberals who control everything else.
It is an entirely unproven supposition that liberal hosts can take advantage of a similar sense of alienation and isolation on the left. Yes, liberals are profoundly alienated from the presidency of George W. Bush. And, increasingly, they understand how partisan conservative media outlets such as the Fox News Channel and Limbaughs show shape and warp the national conversation. But there is little sign that liberals looking for something to listen to in their cars will abandon their current programming of choice: National Public Radio, which claims a weekly audience of 22 million some seven million more than Limbaugh.
And no, NPR isnt really liberal, not the way Fox or Rush is conservative. That is, NPR is not a partisan Democratic outlet, and it does not take sides when covering political or economic issues. But NPR is imbued with a liberal cultural sensibility, and its tone of civility and moderation, in many respects, is the perfect counterbalance to the right-wing shouters.
Sure, liberal listeners might be willing to switch from All Things Considered to The Liberal Show (the tongue-in-cheek name suggested by Al Franken for a program hes in line to host) just to see what its like. But to abandon NPR for Central Air on a more or less permanent basis? Sorry. Thats not going to happen.
On the other hand, liberals do not live by NPR alone. Central Airs best bet is to establish itself as the second spot on the dial, for the times when NPR is doing a 12-minute audio diary on the fig groves of Morocco.
As we shall see, the formula it seems to be moving toward fast and funny may turn out to be just right.
OF COURSE, even the best programming cant be heard if there are no stations to broadcast it. And here is where Central Air may have a problem. Last week, the New York Times quoted Central Air executives as saying that they would soon acquire stations in five of the nations 10 largest media markets: New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Philadelphia, and Boston. Not a single one of those stations, though, has been identified. For that matter, not a word was spoken about smaller urban markets such as Providence and Portland. That, presumably, will come later.
In Boston, it is natural to speculate about small and/or independent stations such as WWZN Radio (AM 1510), a/k/a "The Zone," a sports-talk station with mediocre ratings, and WBIX Radio (AM 1060), a business station in the process of upgrading its signal and moving to 24-hour broadcasting.
Scott Fybush, editor of the online Northeast Radio Watch (www.fybush.com), says WWZN may be a natural for Central Air. Its sister stations in New York City and Chicago recently leased their facilities (for Russian-language and Catholic programming, respectively), leaving only Boston and Los Angeles as part of what had been intended as a national sports network. WWZN general manager Bill Flaherty, reached by e-mail, declined to comment.
As for WBIX, Fybush notes that there are "always rumors" surrounding the station. Earlier this year, BIX CEO Brad Bleidt told me he wanted to bring in a media partner such as the Boston Herald (see "Dont Quote Me," News and Features, June 20). But any such move will have to wait until the Federal Communications Commissions decision to loosen cross-ownership requirements passes muster with Congress. And that may not happen anytime soon, given that elected officials seem finally to have woken up to the dangers of corporate media concentration.
But Bleidt now says his station is doing well without a partner, adding, "Boston does need a business station, and were proving it can work." He says that he might be willing to sell his evening and overnight hours once WBIX expands beyond daytime operations. But he adds that he has not had any communication with Central Air.
Another possibility, Fybush says, is that Central Air will cut a deal with a company called Multicultural Broadcasting, whose nationwide chain includes two small stations in Greater Boston WAZN (AM 1470), which is in the process of moving from Marlborough to Watertown, and WLYN (AM 1360), which is located in Lynn. Indeed, the New York Post reported last August that Multicultural owner Arthur Liu was talking with the group that has evolved into Central Air.
But Liu told me this week that his conversations with Central Air are now over, explaining that though hes willing to lease the airtime on his stations, hes not willing to sell them outright, which is the current strategy that Central Air is pursuing. "Were not in that game," Liu says.
Conservative talk host Howie Carr, of WRKO, dismisses the idea of liberal talk radio for predictable reasons. ("Theyve already got their own network. Its NPR.") But he also makes a cogent business argument.
With major-market AM stations costing somewhere between $20 million to $30 million (an FM station with a strong signal can cost at least double that), Carr thinks Central Air should concentrate on developing a line-up of syndicated programming that it can sell to existing radio stations rather than putting together its own network.
"If theyre going to buy decent stations in those five cities, youre talking about $100 million," Carr says. "They could do a lot of programming development for $5 million."
GIVE CENTRAL Air credit for this much: its executives are smart enough to have figured out that the last thing the public wants is a liberal version of Rush Limbaugh, with or without OxyContin. For instance, Lizz Winstead, who helped invent Comedy Centrals The Daily Show, has been brought in as the networks creative director. That is precisely the right approach.
Though a deal hasnt been signed yet, it appears that the star of the new network will be Al Franken, a liberal who manages the difficult feat of being funny, substantive, and self-deprecating all at the same time. Actress Janeane Garofalo may do a program. Martin Kaplan, associate dean of the Annenberg School for Communication at the University of Southern California, will host a media show.
A local voice will be heard from as well. Barry Crimmins, a well-known Boston humorist who now lives in the New York area, has signed on to write and to do on-air commentary. His involvement was disclosed last Friday by the Boston Heralds respected radio reporter, Dean Johnson.
"I think its going to be great," Crimmins told me when I reached him by phone. "And I dont think its going to be any of these things that people are presupposing it to be. I think its going to be entertaining, witty, informative, and vital."
Crimmins adds: "The format is still being developed, and Im not privy to everything thats gone on thus far. Youll hear some stuff that sounds like talk radio and youll hear some other stuff. Therell be a lot of innovation."
Veteran media activist Al Giordano, a former Boston Phoenix reporter, former talk-show host, and the author of "Talk Radio Manifesto" (follow the links from his weblog, www.bigleftoutside.com), told me by e-mail that he compares the network to "a great new war toy heading onto an uncharted battlefield. There is going to be, in my opinion, a lot of trial and error. Some things will work right away. Others may not. I think this dream team is going to be flexible enough to self-correct any weak links in the experiment as it evolves, and all of us who root for them should cut them some slack as the network grows into itself."
As for more details, those will have to wait. When I reached Winstead by e-mail, she declined to comment, explaining that she is "keeping a low profile" for now. Nor did I succeed before deadline in reaching Mark Walsh, the chief executive of New Yorkbased Central Airs parent company, Progress Media. The Web site (www.centralairmedia.com) offers slim pickings at this point.
Oddly enough, the best source turns out to be a hostile witness: Byron York, of the conservative National Review, who recently interviewed Walsh, a former Internet executive and past adviser to both the Democratic National Committee and to Senator John Kerry.
Walsh told York he wants his network to be known as "centrist" rather than "liberal." (Hmm ... isnt this why Alan Colmes loses every argument to Sean Hannity?) More promisingly, as the possible Crimmins/Franken/Garofalo troika suggests, Walsh appears to understand the value of humor.
"On the progressive side, were often accused of having radio or entertainment that sounds like eat-your-vegetables scolding," Walsh said. "Its got a slight air of education, of Im right, and youre going to learn why. And we just concluded that thats not a winner."
Then, too, Limbaugh was hilarious when he started out. It was only after he began to perceive himself as powerful that the laughs were replaced by pompous hectoring. Walsh sounds like hes determined to avoid making the same mistake. But first, hes got to find an audience.
COUNT MICHAEL Harrison as a skeptic. The editor of Talkers magazine, which covers talk radio, says hes tired of reading about liberal radio without seeing an actual plan.
"Ill believe it when I see it," he says. "They get a tremendous amount of publicity for so far talking about nothing but their intentions. Major stations cannot be acquired and programmed in a couple of months, as they claim they are going to do. As far as Im concerned its the most publicized nonexistent project Ive ever seen."
Yet a would-be competitor thinks otherwise. Michael Elder, program director of WRKO Radio (AM 680), which has a nearly all-conservative line-up of local hosts such as Howie Carr, Pat Whitley, and Peter Blute, as well as nationally syndicated right-wing ranter Michael Savage, says a liberal alternative could very well succeed. (Disclosure: Im paid to talk about the media on Whitleys show every Friday morning.)
"I actually think liberal talk radio would be a good thing," Elder told me by e-mail. "The conservative talkers have gone virtually unchallenged for such a long time. A liberal counterbalance might make them ... a little more honest."
And heres a counterintuitive bit of reasoning. More than a few skeptics have pointed out that several liberal talk-show hosts have failed, most prominently former New York governor Mario Cuomo and Texas populist Jim Hightower.
But Democratic political consultant Michael Goldman himself a talk-show host for Bloomberg Radio says it may turn out that the surest way to kill a liberal talk show is to place it in an otherwise conservative line-up: you alienate your conservative audience without attracting a liberal one.
If Goldman is right, then the fact that Central Air executives are thinking so big may be exactly why they have a chance of succeeding. After all, you wouldnt program three hours of alterna-rock on a country station. Why would anyone think you could stick a liberal talk show on a conservative station?
Nevertheless, this remains a huge gamble. If Central Air can get up and running this spring, in time for the presidential campaign; if it can hit the ground running with both substance and humor; and if it can put together a network of stations that listeners can actually hear above the static, then this could be the biggest success since well, since before Rush Limbaugh discovered hillbilly heroin.
But thats a lot of ifs. Until it happens, this is something to be hoped for, and not much else.
Dan Kennedy can be reached at
dkennedy@phx.com. Read his daily Media Log at BostonPhoenix.com.