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To: Darksheare
The problem with the Crusader is
"The main Crusader tracked vehicle, equipped with a 150 mm howitzer [I think they mean 155mm - Cannoneer], requires a companion vehicle to supply it with ammunition. The two vehicles weigh in at a whopping 81 tons - a lot of hardware to haul to a battle front."
Yes We willl always need Arty., but we also got to get it to where it's needed in a timely manner. Remember not every dictator is as stupid as sadam was(twice) and give us six months to get everything to where we need it.
122 posted on 11/29/2003 6:13:11 PM PST by Valin (We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give.)
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To: Valin
The main Crusader tracked vehicle, equipped with a 150 mm howitzer [I think they mean 155mm - Cannoneer], requires a companion vehicle to supply it with ammunition. The two vehicles weigh in at a whopping 81 tons - a lot of hardware to haul to a battle front." Yes We willl always need Arty., but we also got to get it to where it's needed in a timely manner. Remember not every dictator is as stupid as sadam was(twice) and give us six months to get everything to where we need it.

Just so. Only two of the Crusaders could be carried aboard a C-17. And if it was necessary to suddenly move a battery of Crusaders around in-theater, it would take C-17s to do it; as they couldn't be moved aboard C-130s.

Oh, and the number of Strykers that can be carried aboard a C-17. Also two. And once they arrive in-theater and have their anti-RPG slatted armor added, the number of Strykers that can be carried aboard a C-130? Also zero.

You're a commander; you get your choice of a C-17 airlift of vehicles, two available planes worth. You can have two loads of Crusaders, four vehicles with 155MM guns with a 20KM+ range, and mounting a .50 machinegun each. And if you can get a third planeload, a pair of ammo support vehicles.

Or you can get two planeloads of Strykers, each with a .50 MG. If you get the third planeload, you've got a total six armored cars with MGs on their roofs, max range 2,000 meters, realistic range 1,200. You choose.

-archy-/-

124 posted on 11/29/2003 6:22:37 PM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: Valin; Cannoneer No. 4; Darksheare
The problem with the Crusader is "The main Crusader tracked vehicle, equipped with a 150 mm howitzer [I think they mean 155mm - Cannoneer], requires a companion vehicle to supply it with ammunition. The two vehicles weigh in at a whopping 81 tons - a lot of hardware to haul to a battle front." Yes We willl always need Arty., but we also got to get it to where it's needed in a timely manner. Remember not every dictator is as stupid as sadam was(twice) and give us six months to get everything to where we need it."

Silly person. It was already explained about the pecking order in transporting Army equipment vs. everybody else's. And IIRC, the maneuver force had to stop several times and wait for the M109s to catch up in Gulf War I. The Paladin has a weight somewhere around 31 1/2 tons (IIRC) so the transportation problem you allude to isn't solved by killing the Crusader program.

133 posted on 11/30/2003 5:55:52 AM PST by sauropod (I believe Tawana! Sharpton for Prez! Slap the Donkey or Spank the Monkey? Your Choice)
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