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Book banned in Fort Cherry
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^
| 11/29/03
| Jane Elizabeth
Posted on 11/29/2003 3:58:27 AM PST by Dane
Edited on 04/13/2004 2:35:24 AM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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"Battle Royal" is perhaps the most memorable chapter in Ralph Ellison's acclaimed novel, "Invisible Man," published 51 years ago.
It likely will make an impression on the class of 2004 at Fort Cherry High School, though not necessarily for its literary value.
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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: education; englisheducation; invisibleman; literature
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JMO, but the writer is using Ellison's chapter as the main impetus of the "banning", but it seems that the three other stories are what caused the controversy.
Again JMO, but I don't think those stories are appropriate for a high school English class and kudos to Mr. Fanning for speaking out.
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posted on
11/29/2003 3:58:28 AM PST
by
Dane
To: Dane
I'd have to read the stories before I could comment. I remember too well the local highschool which had to ban "Catcher in the Rye." The parents who complained had not even read the book. My own daughter, as a sophomore in a private school, read it as a class assignment, and it was discussed and explained. It was a beautiful book.
As I said, I'd have to read these stories before I could comment.
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posted on
11/29/2003 4:16:30 AM PST
by
kitkat
(purr, purr)
bump for later
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posted on
11/29/2003 4:19:54 AM PST
by
Lyford
To: Dane
"Our teacher told us that 'some of this material could make you squirm in your seat There are tens of thousands of English novels in the world, and today's educrats, sure nuff, zoom in to the "squirmy" ones, like flies to manure. Seems ta me most of this outrage ought to go to the likes of the NEA. Outrages over particular books are like trying to treat individual pustules of a case of measles.
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posted on
11/29/2003 4:20:09 AM PST
by
HiTech RedNeck
("Across this great nation people pray -- do not put out her flame" -- DFU. An unashamed Godsquadder)
To: HiTech RedNeck
Thank you for a post consisting of balance and reason.
Some cannot resist the "Fundamentalists banning books again/Soon they'll build a bonfire like the Nazis" hyperbole.
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posted on
11/29/2003 4:29:50 AM PST
by
Skooz
(We keep you alive to serve this ship. Row well, and live.)
To: Skooz; HiTech RedNeck
Some cannot resist the "Fundamentalists banning books again/Soon they'll build a bonfire like the Nazis" hyperbole I just posted the title as it appeared in the paper. I didn't mean it to set off any hyperbole.
Also HTRN's comment #4 is also spot on about the NEA being the impetus of the trouble.
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posted on
11/29/2003 4:35:13 AM PST
by
Dane
To: HiTech RedNeck
""There are tens of thousands of English novels in the world, and today's educrats, sure nuff, zoom in to the "squirmy" ones, like flies to manure.""
Well said. A candidate for quote of the day?
I see the NEA's agenda as not just a dumbing down of America, but also a moral decay of America.
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posted on
11/29/2003 4:37:00 AM PST
by
jimtorr
To: jimtorr
I see the NEA's agenda as not just a dumbing down of America, but also a moral decay of America.I agree about the NEA but what about M TV? Banning titillates and once titillated, curiosity takes over. By banning something you can be sure you have advertised a No-No and that gets attention for the very thing you are trying to hide or silence.
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posted on
11/29/2003 5:01:02 AM PST
by
yoe
(No to Mrs. Clinton ever entering the White House as president and NO to her sexual predator spouse –)
To: Dane
"kudos to Mr. Fanning for speaking out." Agreed. If folks do not stand up against filth, filth is what you get.
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posted on
11/29/2003 5:01:10 AM PST
by
sauropod
(I believe Tawana! Sharpton for Prez!)
To: sauropod
Hmmmm. Not a fan of book-banning - but then, that doesn't meen they need to be on the shool cirriculum.
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posted on
11/29/2003 5:10:11 AM PST
by
patton
(I wish we could all look at the evil of abortion with the pure, honest heart of a child.)
To: yoe
You said what I was thinking.
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posted on
11/29/2003 5:20:48 AM PST
by
Dudoight
Comment #12 Removed by Moderator
To: All
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posted on
11/29/2003 5:35:27 AM PST
by
ladylib
To: Dane
But he said no one was forced to read the material and that discussion focused strictly on literary, not lascivious, qualities.Hard for me to work up any real sense of moral dudgeon over material no child was actually forced to read, if they didn't want to.
My opinion; worth what you paid for it.
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posted on
11/29/2003 5:57:14 AM PST
by
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
("The Clintons have damaged our country. They have done it together, in unison." -- Peggy Noonan)
To: Dane
Instead of this crap students should be reading Orwell's 1984, Hemmingway's A Movable Feast, Mark Twain's Huckleberry Finn and Melville's classic Moby Dick.
To: Dane
US Supreme Court is on record stating that school officials (principals, librarians, board members, teachers, etc.) may not simply "ban" a book or remove one from the library without some kind of regularized process for evaluating their merits.
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posted on
11/29/2003 6:12:37 AM PST
by
zook
To: Dane
The problem is public education, which converts what should be family issues into political ones. When the country was founded, there were no public schools. Government schools make just as much sense as government newspapers: which is to say, none at all.
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posted on
11/29/2003 6:16:49 AM PST
by
sourcery
(This is your country. This is your country under socialism. Any questions? Just say no to Socialism!)
To: The Great RJ
Yeah, they don't actually offer a Great Books curriculum do they?
Here's a follow up on that F-word controversy in VA a week or so ago:
http://www.pabbis.com/news.htm
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posted on
11/29/2003 6:28:40 AM PST
by
ladylib
To: ladylib
Because of my own personal sensitivies, I would be
very reluctant to use racially or sexually charged language--whether reading aloud, quoting verbatim, or whatever--in a classroom, maybe even at college level. If it were necessary for me to do so, I think I would give some explanation and possibly an apology.
Huckleberry Finn is a great book, but I would not like reading that ridiculous, tedious, distracting, poorly written, and quite unnecessary "dialect" (more precisely trying to read it) out loud, and the other racially charged material as well, even though Samuel Clements' message was strongly anti-racist.
The few racially charged passages in The Great Gatsby are also offensive, and I would not like having to read them aloud either. I would be tempted to censor them voluntarily. They have little to do with Fitzgerald's excellent novel. They do reflect the mindset of the times, including Fitzgerald's, and, in a larger context, suggest that the moral dilemma presented in the story was less a problem for Fitzgerald than it would be for many of us, a subject well worth exploring in itself.
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posted on
11/29/2003 6:39:33 AM PST
by
Savage Beast
(If Europeans have forgotten the price of appeasement, Americans are well qualified to remind them.)
To: The Great RJ
Post #15: Yes, or what about
The Scarlet Letter. I don't think there's anything offensive in that.
You have to be careful. You never know what's hidden in the text--that you overlooked...and that horrified somebody!
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posted on
11/29/2003 6:45:03 AM PST
by
Savage Beast
(If Europeans have forgotten the price of appeasement, Americans are well qualified to remind them.)
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