Here we go again, now, about those fires started by the Davidians ...
The following evidence demonstrates that the Davidians started the fire:Title III ["Wireless Bug"] Intercepts.
Davidian conversations intercepted through the use of concealed [wireless] listening devices inside the complex from April 17 to April 19 indicate that the Davidians started the fire.An April 17 intercept records Davidians discussing how they could prevent fire trucks from reaching the complex. An April 18 intercept records a conversation between Steven Schneider and other Davidians indicating a conspiracy to start a fire.
During that conversation, Schneider joked that another Davidian had always wanted to be a ?charcoal briquette.?
Another Davidian stated that, ?I know there?s nothing like a good fire . . .? On April 19, between the beginning of the gas insertion operation at approximately 6:00 a.m. and approximately 7:25 a.m., the Title III intercepts recorded the following statements:
?Need fuel;? ?Do you want it poured?;? ?Have you poured it yet?;? ?Did you pour it yet?;? ?David said pour it right?;? ?David said we have to get the fuel on;? ?We want the fuel;? ?They got some fuel around here;? ?Have you got the fuel . . . the fuel ready?;? ?I?ve already poured it;? ?It?s already poured;? ?Yeah . . . we?ve been pouring it;? ?Pouring it already;? ?Real quickly you can order the fire yes;? ?You got to put the fuel in there too;? ?We?ve got it poured already;? ?Is there a way to spread fuel in there?;? ?So we only light it first when they come in with the tank right . . . right as they?re coming in;? ?That?s secure . . . we should get more hay in here;? ?You have to spread it all so get started ok??These statements precede the sighting of fire by several hours, which is further proof that the Davidians intended to set fire to the complex well in advance of actually lighting the fires.
Much closer to the time of the fire, from approximately 11:17 a.m. to 12:04 p.m., Title III intercepts recorded the following statements from inside the complex:
?Do you think I could light this soon?;? ?I want a fire on the front . . . you two can go;? ?Keep that fire going . . . keep it.?The only plausible explanation for these comments is that some of the Davidians were executing their plan to start a fire.
Admissions of Branch Davidians.
Davidians who survived the fire have acknowledged that other Davidians started the fire.Graeme Craddock, a Davidian who survived the fire, told the Office of Special Counsel in 1999 that he observed other Davidians pouring fuel in the chapel area of the complex on April 19, 1993.
He further stated that he saw another Davidian, Mark Wendel, arrive from the second floor yelling: ?Light the fire.?
Davidian Clive Doyle told the Texas Rangers on April 20, 1993, that Davidians had spread Coleman fuel in designated locations throughout the complex, although he declined to state who specifically lit the fires.
Where did you get this info Jim??? Same place we got ours...LOL...
Given the simultaneous failure of 4 federal cameras to provide correlating evidence, and the fact that feds have been caught outright fibbing about the deployment of flashbangs--why would anyone grant credibility to accused's tapes? An honest judge in a murder case wouldn't. When you get caught repeatedly lying under oath to congress, your credibility is worth nothing. &, at any rate, how is this an excuse to kill a bunch of children?--we had to use the full force and authority of our government to kill them first? Those tapes, whatever their credibility, do not sound like a mass suicide attempt to me--they sound like a desperate defense against tank breachments, however ill-advised. The branch dividians did not have advanced arsenal technicians on staff experienced in subduction fires--the forces outside did. This does not provide a valid law-enforcement excuse for ventilating the building with TANKS and filling it with flammable gas & throwing flashbangs around. It provides a valid law-enforcement excuse, that anyone but a democratic congressman or an FBI officer in heat can understand, not to.