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They bloody DID burn them out! On network TV!

You're wrong, the evidence doesn't show that, and it was the Davidians THEMSELVES that performed this act.

Admission by Gramme Craddack (sp?), a Daviadian who made it out, confirms this, but, of course, you, blinded by your rage and hopelessly bowled over by the continuing 'hype' on this subject MISS this little item.

Instead, you put complete and continuing faith in a dubious work produced by Mike McNutty and a small group of ex-CNNers and those who used to produce "A Current Affair" ...

CONTINUED OBLIVIOUSNESS to the 'facts' are only going to cause you nothing but lasting anger TOWARDS the wrong people and continue to twist your thinking in directions OTHERS would have you go; for it was Vernon Wayne Howell who:

a) held a number of people mental hostage (some, the potential troublemakers were 'allowed' to leave by Vernon Wayne Howell - Note: those children 'allowed to leave' were *not* his progeny, it was his kids who he kept in the compound)

b) finally called for the 'Armageddon Event' and had the fires lit CULMINATING in the deaths of 80 some people he had 'held' there for 51 days ...

You're wrong, the evidence doesn't show that, and it was the Davidians THEMSELVES that performed this act.

The evidence you have presented does not show that. What is shows, if none of it is rigged, is that the Davidians might have burned themselves up before the feds did it for them, or not.

Taken at face value, What the evidence you just presented glaringly shows, is the errant disregard for life displayed by federal forces in ventilating AND FILLING WITH AN INFLAMMABLE GAS, a building in which they knew a fire was likely about to start, and which was occupied by children.

The logic here is a patent crock of dung, and it is very hard not to believe some of it was concocted, to tell an exonerating story after the fact, and distract attention for the flagrant disregard for those children shown by federal forces that day. As evidenced by a packing crate full of child's corpses, said which children the Branch Davidians themselves had secreted underground, as far from harm's way as they could manage.

I am not "you guys," am not blinded by anything, let alone by the rage you project into this discussion and with which you attack, assault and impugn the character of those who persist with the Truth in the face of your Goebbellsian efforts to suppress it.

"Mike McNutty?" Who or what is a Mike McNutty? Never heard of it. Or of him.

Disagreement with your "DemocRATic" potty line does not constitute "rage" and -- contrary to the line they fed you at potty hq -- is an indicator only of one's occupancy of the intellectual, moral and legal high ground on this issue.

Further, not only am I singularly unimpressed by your pathetic and puny attempts to arrange the appearance of "evidence" in support of your predetermination in this matter and of the guilty parties obsessive need to obfuscate and to demean and to demonize the victims of their mass murders, I am more than ever convinced of the soundness of the overwhelming prima facie evidence to support the feral gummint's in general and the cli'toon "administration's" specific responsibility and guilt for the deaths of every one of the victims of the Waco atrocities.

And, never for a moment forgetting -- by what I saw with my own Mark One Eyeball.

Here's some food for you, for thought. Although, judging by this thread's evidence, that might be a new experience for you.

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Delta Force Murdered Branch Davidians

Mike Blair

It's Official says The SPOTLIGHT -- With Help From The British SAS

An elite U. S. Army military unit under the direct command of the office of the president was responsible for the massacre of 80-100 or so Branch Davidian men, women and dozens of children after a 5I day siege by the federal government of their home and church and school at Waco, Texas in 1993.

Orders were passed on from his spouse to the top secret Combat Applications Group of Fort Bragg, N.C., [Known as the Delta Force] by one William Jefferson Blythe [AKA Clinton] because the seemingly endless stand off between the FBI and the besiged residents of the home, church and school had become what Mrs Clinton called "an embarrassment to his 'administration,'" according to a former Army Special Forces member. Totally involved in the final days of decision making that, by murdering the beseiged, "brought closure to the siege" was Mrs Clinton, currently the US media poster girl as a result of her venture into Senate politics as the Illinois/Arkansas carpet bagger from New York.

Reports have been received by The SPOTLIGHT that Gene Cullen, a former CIA agent, has asked a Senate committee for "protection" in return for his testimony regarding Delta Force activity at Waco. Cullen is requesting "protection" according to reports, because he has been threatened with prosecution for violating national security if he talks.

WHlTE HOUSE BRIEFED

The recent release of documents through the Freedom of Information Act [FOIA] reveals that Army officials, and in particular those from Delta Force, met with White House and Justice Department officials, including Attorney General Janet Reno and her then second-in-command and Mrs Clinton's former law partner, Webster Hubbel, to discuss a resolution to the Waco standoff.

Evidence collected by The SPOTLIGHT, however, reveals that Delta Force played far more than an advisory role in ending the government's siege. Delta Force, in fact, had a direct, operational role in the attack on the Branch Davidian compound and caused the holocaust that took the lives of 80-100 residents of the religious community, including dozens of women and children.

Steve Barry, a retired long-time member of Army Special Forces and a top expert in the field of military special operations, said a team of about 10 members of Delta Force carried out the Waco massacre.

Barry's military career included training with Delta Force. According to him, "two bricks," or four man teams, carried out the actual attack.

In recently released FBI infrared video tapes of the crucial minutes of the April 19 assault on Adventist Branch Davidian, Mr Koresh's, home and church and school, fully-automatic gunfire is seen being directed into an area of the home, church and school, which Mr Koresh and his terrified family, parishioners and students and their dozens of children were attempting to use to escape from the flames, fanned by high winds, which were consuming the wooden buildings.

Barry told The SPOTLIGHT that there was a team of "as many as 10" Delta Force troopers at Waco, including, as he described them, "a commander, a sergeant major, two or three communications guys, two or three intel [Intelligence] guys, a medic and two or three operational guys." He said assigned to them, supposedly in an advisory capacity, were members of the British SAS, [Special Air Service] an elite British special operations force. The Delta Force, Barry explained, shared a Tactical Operations Center [TOC] at Waco with an FBI Hostage Rescue Team [HRT] force. Since the 1993 Waco atrocities, the American people have been led to believe that the IRT force alone conducted the assault on the compound.

Barry said the Delta Force receives its orders from what is known as the National Command Authority, which then included Clinton, Secretary of State Warren Christopher, Secretary of Defence Les Aspin and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff; Army General Colin Powell -- and Mrs Clinton.

The ultimate decision to send Delta Force into action rests with the president, Barry said, it can be no other way.

FAMILIAR FACE

Adding to the controversy, it has leeen confirmed that Lon Horiuchi was in charge of a "sniper post" where the evidence details that Texas Rangers recovered spent .223 and .308 shell casings.

Horiuchi was the FBI killer who feloniously fatally shot the wife of Randy Weaver, while also-unlawfully wounding both Randy Weaver and Kevin Harris, during the murderous federal seige at Ruby Ridge in Idaho.

The recovered shell casings would be consistent with government-issued sniper rifles. Horiuchi "has denied" that he or any members of his "team" fired any shots at Waco.

The retired special operations expert said that during the siege at Waco, Mrs Clinton set up and operated what she called a "a crises center" at the White House, put together "on her own initiative." Interfering with her was another former member of the Little Rock law firm for and from which she had been the link to the governors office, White House Deputy Council Vincent M Foster Jr.

Foster was later found dead under mysterious circumstances in a Virginia park, across the river from the District of Columbia.

According to Barry, it was from this extra-governmental "crises center" that slanderous, defamitory and demonizing allegations first went out that there was "child abuse" by adult members of the religious community under attack at Waco -- including by the community's leader, the Reverend David Koresh, at his Waco home, church and school.

This revelation about the part Foster played in the Waco tragedy has been confirmed by Mike McNulty, the producer of a documentary film on the siege. McNulty quoted Fosters widow, Lisa, who said that the White House attorney's depression at the time of his death "was fueled by Mr Foster's horror at the carnage at Waco for which Mrs Clinton's unlawful and extra-governmental "crises center" had given the orders."

McNulty also said that Forster was preparing a Waco report when he died. This has been confirmed by veteran British journalist, Ambrose Evans-Pritchard.

In his book the Secret Life of Bill Clinton. Pritchard wrote:

The Branch Davidian siege was clearly on Fosters mind. He was "drafting a letter involving Waco" on the day of his death, surely a point of some significance. He kept a Waco file in the locked cabinet that was off limits to everybody, including his secretary. His widow mentions Waco twice in her statement to the FBI. Toward the end of his life, Foster had no sense of joy or elation at work. The slaughter of the Branch Davidians near Waco, Texas, was also causing him a great deal of stress. Lisa Foster believes that he was horrified when the Branch Davidian complex was burned.

"Crises center" member, Mr Foster, believed that "everything was [His] fault."

When asked about how the Delta Force action jibes with the Posse Comitatus Act, which outlaws the use of Army forces to enforce civilian law, Barry said: "That's just it. It doesn't jibe with Posse Comitatus."

A violation of Posse Comitatus is indeed "a high crime or misdemeanor" -- an impeachable felony offence.

And if Clinton's reasons for ordering the Delta Force attack at Waco are murky, the reasons for directing a cover-up are obviously not. Posse Comitatus clearly states that:

"Whoever... willfully uses any part of the Army or the Air Force as a Posse Comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined not more than $10,000 or imprisoned for not more than two years."

Extracted from The SPOTLIGHT, 1O,3O,99

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Guess that's why you're still busily wiping your Arkansas abberrations' arses, eh Jim?

Surprise! Surprise! After all of these years.

Fascists are still attracting brown-shirted brown noses.

To their no shame game.