Clark Post During Waco Gets New Attention

Drudge Report | Nov 28, 2003 | PETE YOST

[_Jim]

This has been hashed and re-hashed on FR untold times; I'm not going to 'play' some simple-minded word games with you even though you're in the mood to ..

[sit-rep]

Post 57...

Playing monica means sucki' clinton's....

[sit-rep]

IOWs, he ain't got jack!

[_Jim]

You and Mike M haven't got squat.

What you THINK you have is based on either wilful or mistaken identification of what McNulty has identified on tape. PURE and simple.

[_Jim]

I can see you're gettiing deep into foolishness on this topic now ...

[cyn]

McCuistion. Here's a link to the North Texas Skeptics website that briefly refers to that program: http://www.ntskeptics.org/2000/2000may/may2000.htm

Here's a World Net Daily article posted to FR from 4/12/03 that may be of interest: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/891556/posts

[JennysCool]

All I can say, is read that transcript you posted again. NOBODY talks like that. It's as if you had a tape in a murder case where the suspect is heard, over and over again, saying, "Have I got the murder weapon? Yes! I've got the murder weapon right here! Phew! I'm sure glad I've got the MURDER WEAPON!"

[Yasotay]

The last battalion I was in the Army had three soldiers get run over by tracks, one was crushed and died, two SANK into the mud and actually lived! Many very weird things can and do happen. Throwing a track, is really easy. Again I have not seen the film, but wire is a nightmare to treadheads and I remember seeing alot of wire at Waco. One of a thousand possibilities would be as the tracks moves, the wire (and other debris) clogs up the rear sprocket and either jams it or causes the track to be thrown.

[cyn]

btw, do you remember seeing any fire engines or ambulances there?

[Yasotay]

Clark was one of my instructors at West Point, I remember him and his department predicting the Fall of the Soviet Union years before it happened, he is VERY smart. Having said that .... MANY things in this article do not add up. A commander is legally responsible for EVERYTHING his unit does or fails to do .... his ADC(M or S)Schoomaker was only carrying out his bosses' orders. I have read that LTG FUNK was Clark's actual commander not Taylor. Taylor's statement appear to be wrong.

[sit-rep]

I just went over to the thread that cyn provided the link for above...and BTW, I see you sucking up over there too, towing the party line.

Here is my own personal reason why I think you and the other fed groupies are wrong in following blindly, the spoken fed word.

Take all we have spoke of thus far and set it aside...that is, everthing but the FLIR imagry showing muzzle flashes at the rear of the compound(kitchen exit). I firmly believe that this is gunfire for one reason, and only one reason. In three to five differient locations, the timing of the flashes in each location is unmistakingly gun fire. There is no, repeat no anomaly that can be flashing at the rate and precision these locations showed. It would be impossible for mirrors to be broken and the pieces laying in such a way as to send reflected light toward the FBI chopper in such a fashion.

If you can sit there and type that this is indeed an anomaly, and do not come up with a single thing that could cause this, you, and the others are indeed full of shit.

Are you sure you're not towing the party line because of the heat JR may take by posting the truth?... Are you sure you're not sucking up here my man??

[donh]

A 'male body' causes a tank tread to loose a track, sorry, but, that's really not within the believable realm of possibilities ... unless that body was Superman ...

I seriously doubt that that's so. A human body is perfectly capabable of causing a mis-mesh between a tread and a wheel, causing a derailment of the tread, in probably less than two full traverses of the tread. Human bones are not made of chicken fluff and derailment does not require a pile-driver's worth of force, just a properly angled wedge, or jam, to prevent a sproket from finding its link.

[Palladin]

Waco was a dress rehearsal for Clark's butchery in Kosovo.

[Yasotay]

Here are some more thoughts .... a lot depends on whether Schoomaker was Assistant Division Commander ie ADC(M) or (S). If he was (S) ... Support ... then Taylor's statements may only be partly wrong. If Schoomaker was ADC (M) .... Manuever .... it would be hard be believe Taylor is telling the truth. The reason is clear ... (S) Support is support but (M)Manuever is PLANNING!

[StriperSniper]

Schoomaker

Hmmm...That must be the same one who was at the Senate hearing that was on last week.

Also this story was mentioned on "Special Report with Brit Hume"(Brian Wilson was filling in tonight I think) during the "Grapevive" segment. I didn't really see what he said as I had Mark Levin on the radio and the TV was in the other room, but my ears perked up when I heard 'Waco' and 'Clark'.

[Yasotay]

I think it is the same Schoomaker that Rumsfeld pulled out of retirement to become the Army's Chief of Staff. He does go in front of Congress so it probably was one in the same.

[donh]

Davidian Clive Doyle told the Texas Rangers on April 20, 1993, that Davidians had spread Coleman fuel in designated locations throughout the complex, although he declined to state who specifically lit the fires.

Given the simultaneous failure of 4 federal cameras to provide correlating evidence, and the fact that feds have been caught outright fibbing about the deployment of flashbangs--why would anyone grant credibility to accused's tapes? An honest judge in a murder case wouldn't. When you get caught repeatedly lying under oath to congress, your credibility is worth nothing. &, at any rate, how is this an excuse to kill a bunch of children?--we had to use the full force and authority of our government to kill them first? Those tapes, whatever their credibility, do not sound like a mass suicide attempt to me--they sound like a desperate defense against tank breachments, however ill-advised. The branch dividians did not have advanced arsenal technicians on staff experienced in subduction fires--the forces outside did. This does not provide a valid law-enforcement excuse for ventilating the building with TANKS and filling it with flammable gas & throwing flashbangs around. It provides a valid law-enforcement excuse, that anyone but a democratic congressman or an FBI officer in heat can understand, not to.

[Reactionary]

"Well, you've been 'had' in that case by a 'piece' in which Mikle McNulty took many liberties with the 'facts' and interpretation of what the IR equipment saw that last day..."

Yes? And what "facts" were those?

[endthematrix]

Ouch, that had to hurt:)

[coloradan]

They wanted to burn them out,

That's sheer nonsense.

You're absolutely right! They didn't want to burn them out. They wanted to burn them alive, with no survivors - not to make them escape. They failed, though - a few people managed to get out.