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To: _Jim; Arthur Wildfire! March
The shift has been slow and incremental. You've doubtless heard the metaphor of the frog in the boiling water: the water heats gradually, and frog eventually boils to death. Charles Darwin himself, writing in a letter to his friend Charles Lyell, understood that direct frontal attacks on Christianity left no lasting effect, but the subtle, silent side attacks - denying first the flood, and then divine Creation, would produce real "good" over a long period of time.

Many of the evils we lament today, of which the Massachussettes ruling is only the latest, can be properly adduced to the shift away from man as a Divinely created being to man as an animal.

Plato's Republic has been a favorite utopian model for liberals over the ages, yet in that work Plato demanded that men be keenly aware of their accountability for earthly actions before God. Lacking this component, "Republics" like the former U.S.S.R, China, and smaller communist dicatorships have not produced liberty and happiness, but slavery and misery. Plato rightly doubted that his Republic would ever materialize on earth.

And to the extent that we collectively legislate God out of the public square, we deny any activity at all and will find ourselves enslaved and miserable.

Arthur: Thanks for having the courage and moral fortitude to bring these unpleasant realities into the halls of free public discourse. These are not only worthy topics, but mandatory.

12 posted on 11/27/2003 4:10:20 PM PST by Lexinom ("No society rises above its idea of God." -unknown)
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To: Lexinom
All you have penned, however, does not have God one foot out the door, but rather being ushered out the door.

There is a fine difference; WHAT was written previously had it worded as if God was exiting of his own accord - THIS is what I meant when I said "I don't see any sign of this."

One would have to be deviod of his very senses to see that God is being ushered slowly but surely from any prescence, sign or indication in our daily lives.

DO you get the finer difference I just pointed out?

13 posted on 11/27/2003 4:35:41 PM PST by _Jim ( <--- Ann Coulter speaks on gutless Liberals (RealAudio files))
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To: Lexinom
Lacking this component, "Republics" like the former U.S.S.R, China, and smaller communist dicatorships have not produced liberty and happiness, but slavery and misery.

The conversion of Russia/the USSR was prominent on the Catholic's list of things to pray for during that period we now call "The Cold War", and, I would say, the result that was achieved, it's eventual dissolution. You *are* aware of this period in time and the prayers which were offered up for this to come about aren't you?

(Do you remember the visit by The Pope to Gen. Jaruzelski of Poland - and the communist general literally trembling on camera?)

14 posted on 11/27/2003 4:43:01 PM PST by _Jim ( <--- Ann Coulter speaks on gutless Liberals (RealAudio files))
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