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Garner: U.S. Made Postwar Iraq Mistakes
Yahoo News ^ | 11/26/03 | Michael McDonough - AP

Posted on 11/26/2003 5:57:24 PM PST by NormsRevenge

LONDON - The retired American general who headed the first occupation government in Iraq (news - web sites) says the decision to disband the Iraqi army was one of several major mistakes Washington has made in Iraq.

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The United States should also have put more more troops into Baghdad after the fall of Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) and done a better job of winning support from the Iraqi people, Jay Garner said in a radio interview aired Wednesday.

"I think there was a lot of thought ... on how to do postwar Iraq. I just don't think that it unfolded the way everybody expected it to unfold," Garner told the British Broadcasting Corp.

Garner arrived in Baghdad on April 21, shortly after Saddam's fall. He was replaced by L. Paul Bremer on May 12, after less than a month as Iraq's civilian administrator. At the time he was criticized for not doing enough to stop the lawlessness in Baghdad.

Garner, a former lieutenant general who ran the relief mission for Kurdish refugees after the 1991 Gulf War (news - web sites), claimed he was undermined by interagency rivalry and said the military did not act quickly enough to restore law and order and key services in the city.

After the collapse of the Baath regime, looters rampaged for days, sacking businesses and government buildings. The chaos shocked many Baghdad residents, and crime remains a problem in the capital.

"If we did it over again, we probably would have put more dismounted infantrymen in Baghdad and maybe more troops there," Garner said, speaking to the BBC from his home in Florida.

He also criticized Bremer for disbanding the Iraqi army at a time when manpower was needed for rebuilding. The original plan had been to pay the army to take part in reconstruction work.

"I think it was a mistake," Garner said. "We planned ... on bringing the Iraqi army back and using them in reconstruction."

Bremer's decision threw hundreds of thousands of breadwinners out of work and provided potential recruits for insurgency, he said.

"You're talking about around a million or more people ... that are suffering because the head of the household's out of work," said Garner.

"And we had budgeted to pay the Iraqi army. But part of our plans said, you know, they'll surrender like they did in the first Gulf War. "Well, hell, they didn't surrender, they just evaporated," Garner said.

In defense of his decision, Bremer has said the army had already dissipated during the last days of the war, military facilities were heavily damaged and stripped by looters and it was necessary to rid the military of Saddam's supporters.

Garner admitted some mistakes of his own. In hindsight, he said, he would have done a better job communicating with the Iraqi people and restoring electricity supplies.

"I think we are finally placing more trust in Iraqis, which we should have done to begin with," he said.

"We should have tried to raise a government a little faster than we did," he added.

He also acknowledged that not enough effort had been put into winning over ordinary Iraqis by getting America's message across.

 

"We did a bad job of executing that. There's no excuse for that. The consequence of that is who they got to listen to was al-Jazeera," he said.

Garner complained of bad relations between the Pentagon (news - web sites) and State Department, saying he didn't learn of a detailed study by Secretary of State Colin Powell (news - web sites) for postwar Iraq until a few weeks before the war began in March.

After learning of the State Department plan in February, Garner had brought in Tom Warrick, a senior official involved in the study. But Garner said he was forced to fire Warrick by Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.

Though Garner said he protested that Warrick was "too valuable" to lose, he said Rumsfeld told him: "'This came to me from such a high level that I can't overturn it, and I've just got to ask you to remove Mr. Warrick.'

"There's intense rivalries between all the agencies, but that didn't start with this war, that's been going on ever since we had an interagency," Garner said. "It's just part of Washington."

Garner rejected a suggestion that the poor communications helped strengthen opposition to the coalition presence in Iraq. Instead, he blamed hardcore supporters of Saddam's Baath party and international terrorists.

"The international war on terrorism began to be fought in Iraq," he said, with anti-American fighters coming in from other countries.

"That's not all bad," Garner said. "Bring 'em all in there, we'll kill 'em there."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aftermathanalysis; bringemon; garner; iia; interimauthority; iraq; jaygarner; lpaulbremer; mistakes; orha; postwar; postwariraq; powell; rumsfeld; tomwarrick

1 posted on 11/26/2003 5:57:25 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
The U.S. is composed of humans. Humans are not perfect and thus sometimes inevitably and predictably make mistakes.

It would be shocking and newsworthy if someone somewhere were claiming that "The U.S." made no mistakes whatsoever in some mass endeavor.

What is not particularly shocking or newsworthy is a claim that the U.S. did make mistakes in some mass endeavor. Dog-bites-man!

That said, it is certainly important to learn about what mistakes we did make so as to learn from them and improve upon them where possible. However it is also important not to read too much into the bare fact that the U.S. "made mistakes" in something.

"The U.S. made mistakes" is a statement which is almost always true.

2 posted on 11/26/2003 6:05:34 PM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: NormsRevenge
I have always wondered about Mr. Garner. He was fired fast. I mean fast! There is a story here somewhere.
3 posted on 11/26/2003 6:09:32 PM PST by Spruce
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To: NormsRevenge
"That's not all bad," Garner said. "Bring 'em all in there, we'll kill 'em there."
I'll say.

About his other comments: To quote Chirac, Garner missed a good opportunity to shut up.
4 posted on 11/26/2003 6:09:41 PM PST by Asclepius (karma vigilante)
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To: Spruce
I wondered why he was fired as well! You are right -- there is a story there.
5 posted on 11/26/2003 6:22:43 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- OU Sooners are #1)
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To: NormsRevenge
Why is it the media has such a short institutional memory of the high concentration of Baathe Party/Hussein-loyalists that were in the armed forces at the time of occupation?
6 posted on 11/26/2003 6:24:01 PM PST by Vetnet ("Into this Mosaic of Freedom is laid, this precious piece of The Angels Brigade")
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To: Spruce
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3239166.stm

6 minute recording of Jay Garner here, adds more. He is intelligent and perceptive.

He was fired because he wanted to bring in the state department and Rumsfeld was against.
7 posted on 11/26/2003 6:25:30 PM PST by inPhase
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To: inPhase
He was fired because he wanted to bring in the state department and Rumsfeld was against."

Actually the opposite ... this former general graner didnt sit well with the state dept, so the state dept wrangled and got a state dept appointee, Bremer, to oversee things.

The real problem has not been Bremer and Garner per se but the state dept underlings who are hopeless in this enterprise. A perfect example is their unwillingness to boldly make the case for America on iraqi radio and TV. We dare not propagandize? Why? I'll tell you why, our own state dept quisling dont believe in the mission and so dont go the extra mile to make it work.
9 posted on 11/26/2003 6:55:42 PM PST by WOSG (The only thing that will defeat us is defeatism itself)
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To: WOSG
Bump.
10 posted on 11/26/2003 8:09:30 PM PST by First_Salute (God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: WOSG
The present state of Iraq is marred by in-fighting between State and Defense. I freely admit to not being very well informed (and I am trying to be informed), but I think that, given State's record, I would prefer that the DoD be in charge.
11 posted on 11/26/2003 9:18:01 PM PST by bagman
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To: WOSG
Maybe. But Garner believed a coalition of State dept and their opponents was the only way to succeed. Rumsfeld had to drop his opposition to Powell, sort of. Garner did bring in State. There were over a dozen which he pared down for Rum, then Rum wanted one guy out in particular, said it was the higher up's command, can only be POTUS. Dean did the same thing during Nix days, claiming authority from POTUS which was false. Wait and see how this plays out. I think he was informing on Rum

Army training is to get along for the cause and to smile even if you have a mouth full of .
12 posted on 11/27/2003 6:02:47 AM PST by inPhase
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To: seamole
Sure, State won a few hands there because as Garner puts it, they completely miscalculated what would happen "after" the war or at least after the fall of Bagdad.

Then Bremer made big mistakes but gets along with POTUS. Garner and Rum argued I am told and Garner was out of there just lioke that.
13 posted on 11/27/2003 6:06:16 AM PST by inPhase
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To: bagman
Good guys bad guys in both. Bremer doe not look talented at the right things to me. Should have left military in place.
14 posted on 11/27/2003 6:08:48 AM PST by inPhase
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