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To: Swordmaker
We are discussing computer security and the RELATIVE merits of two platforms.

No, actually, you're the one who wants to bring up Windows. Nearly everybody else is discussing OSX here.

My computer has never been exploited either... and that is without "locking it down so tightly." When I learned of this security issue, I evaluated, found it would apply only to a VERY MINISCULE number of Mac users ( and certainly not to me ), I assigned it the very low priority that Apple also assigned it.

Good thing you're not using your Mac in a corporate LAN/WAN environment. Because if you were, you're vulnerable.

Then WHY do you post in every one of these threads???

Ask yourself the same question when you visit Windows-related threads.
71 posted on 11/28/2003 10:26:16 AM PST by Bush2000
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To: Bush2000
No, actually, you're the one who wants to bring up Windows. Nearly everybody else is discussing OSX here.

Intelligent discussion requires that both parties have some knowledge or experience of the topic discussed; you do not have ANY experience with OS-X. On the other hand, I have extensive experience on both platforms which makes me more qualified then you to have an opinion. You have repeatedly spouted nonsense about this issue. For example, you very first post on this thread, which I quote:

"Repeat after me: "OSX is se-currrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrre....." BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!"

Now THAT is really intelligent discourse. Your second post end with your first slur on THIS thread:

"The Mac bigots tend to ignore bad news.

Of course, you Windows bigots are always extremely polite? Strange, just one reply later you insult a person YOU invited to the party who very politely requested you remove him from your ping list: "I'll bet you don't want to be pinged. Ignorance is bliss."

Next. we find you actually responding in a proper discussive manner... but that doesn't last long... at the next post we have youi agreeing with mere speculation that is contrary to the facts and ending with another: " BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!" of glee. I think we see you real motive for participating in these threads.

Now returning to your last posting:

"Good thing you're not using your Mac in a corporate LAN/WAN environment. Because if you were, you're vulnerable. "

First, someone on this hypothetical corporate LAN/WAN would have to have malicious motives to damage a corporate asset... and then decide he only wanted to attack the Macs on that environment (perhaps someone who is a Windows bigot?) and then to do it ONE COMPUTER AT A TIME.. Add the chance that once the work around was known, the corporate IT guys would not have bothered to change to two minor settings on the at risk computers, which will STILL work on the network normally with those settings changed.

No, Bush2k, this is not a real big worry in the Mac world.

Am I concerned? Yes. Am I worried? No.

My point in asking about the number of critical security issues in Windows has to do with your obsession with the few that may occur in OS-X. Consider Luke 6:41:

Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?

The relative numbers of security issues on Mac OS-X and on Windows are equivalent to the speck and log referred to in Luke, Work on your LOG and let the Mac users worry about their SPECK!

72 posted on 11/28/2003 2:47:11 PM PST by Swordmaker
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