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'Catcher in the Rye' assignment evokes shock
Washington Times ^
| 11/25/03
| Matthew Cella
Posted on 11/26/2003 10:25:20 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
Edited on 07/12/2004 4:10:53 PM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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A Chantilly High School student says his English teacher instructed the class to repeat a common two-word profanity 10,000 times as a way of desensitizing them to its appearance in the novel "Catcher in the Rye."
Jeff Daybell, 17, a senior at Chantilly, said he brought the incident to the attention of school administrators because he was shocked at the teacher's instructions.
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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: ala; catcherintherye; education; englisheducation; fairfaxcounty; fword; holdencaulfield; prematuregray; salinger; teacher; theprincipalsoffice; twowordcliffnotes
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
The kid is 17 years old. It might be time for him to toughen up a bit.
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posted on
11/26/2003 10:28:30 AM PST
by
dead
(I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
To: dead
Agreed. He should also turn up the gain on his leg-pulling sensors.
Personally, I think what the teacher said is pretty funny....
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posted on
11/26/2003 10:31:18 AM PST
by
r9etb
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
let's show them a video tape of a violent rape
over and over again
to desensitize them to its appearance in some novel, or on the street.
Makes a lot of sense.
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posted on
11/26/2003 10:32:58 AM PST
by
MrB
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
...his English teacher instructed the class to repeat a common two-word profanity 10,000 times as a way of desensitizing them to its appearance... I could say "Hillary Clinton" 100,000 times and it would still set my teeth on edge.
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posted on
11/26/2003 10:33:33 AM PST
by
Jonah Hex
(If it wasn't for door-to-door salesmen, my dog would never get any exercise.)
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I'm happy to learn many in the class found this offensive! (What with the influence of "The Osbournes" and all . . .)
Maybe we're not as far gone as it seems!
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
This guy would not enjoy Marine Corps boot camp.
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posted on
11/26/2003 10:35:28 AM PST
by
GSWarrior
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Has anyone got the top 12 list? I read Catcher a long time ago, like 69 or 70. Need to see what else is bad.
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posted on
11/26/2003 10:38:00 AM PST
by
Conspiracy Guy
(Ignorance can be corrected with knowledge. Stupid is permanent.)
To: dead
Not the point at all. The kid and his buds likely hear the phrase regularly ... but in his High School classes and from his instructors is indefensible. Now, if this was a college level course on social work, etc. where the individuals in the class would be confronting a 'new vocabulary' to deal with, the desensitization exercise is at least relevant.
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posted on
11/26/2003 10:39:56 AM PST
by
MHGinTN
(If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Between my junior & senior years of high school, I attended Arkansas Governor's School in the summer of 1992 (while X-42 was still governor, but running for POTUS). In one class, the teacher instructed us to chant the F-word in order to desensitize us.
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posted on
11/26/2003 10:42:37 AM PST
by
Sloth
("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
To: Flurry
Has anyone got the top 12 list? I read Catcher a long time ago, like 69 or 70. Need to see what else is bad. I expect Harry Potter would take up five of those slots.
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posted on
11/26/2003 10:44:24 AM PST
by
Sloth
("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
To: MHGinTN
the desensitization exercise
The the desensitization exercise was a joke the teacher made, because the phrase appears in the book. He was kidding around with the class, warning them that the phrase is in there. Even the complaining student acknowledged that.
I was in Advanced Placement English class when I was seventeen. That word appeared in quite a few of the books we read. Its in a lot of valid literature that a seventeen year old should be exposed to.
This faux outrage is just a publicity-seeking exercise for a kid with an agenda.
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posted on
11/26/2003 10:44:44 AM PST
by
dead
(I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
To: dead
As a teacher decades ago, I never considered 'Catcher In The Rye' to be good literature, and considered it used only for the shock and 'comradeship' between teachers and students ... a posture I don't buy into either.
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posted on
11/26/2003 10:49:29 AM PST
by
MHGinTN
(If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
To: Flurry
Has anyone got the top 12 list? I read Catcher a long time ago, like 69 or 70. Need to see what else is bad. 1.Scary Stories (Series) by Alvin Schwartz
2.Daddys Roommate by Michael Willhoite
3.I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings by Maya Angelou
4.The Chocolate War by Robert Cormier
5.The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain
6.Of Mice and Men by John Steinbeck
7.Harry Potter (Series) by J.K. Rowling
8.Forever by Judy Blume
9.Bridge to Terabithia by Katherine Paterson
10.Alice (Series) by Phyllis Reynolds Naylor
11.Heather Has Two Mommies by Leslea Newman
12.My Brother Sam is Dead by James Lincoln Collier and Christopher Collier
13.The Catcher in the Rye by J.D. Salinger
The rest is at http://www.ala.org/Content/NavigationMenu/Our_Association/Offices/Intellectual_Freedom3/Banned_Books_Week/Related_Links7/100_Most_Frequently_Challenged_Books_of_1990-2000.htm
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posted on
11/26/2003 10:50:14 AM PST
by
KarlInOhio
(Global warming=fresh picked Ohio bananas. Yummy!)
To: Sloth
Wasn't he one of the character's on M.A.S.H. ?
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posted on
11/26/2003 10:53:06 AM PST
by
Conspiracy Guy
(Ignorance can be corrected with knowledge. Stupid is permanent.)
To: GSWarrior
This guy would not enjoy Marine Corps boot camp.Who's the (deleted) idiot who (deleted) thought that this (deleted) pantywaist would survive (deleted) boot camp, anyway?
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posted on
11/26/2003 10:55:03 AM PST
by
Poohbah
("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
To: KarlInOhio
Twain and Steinbeck. Ridiculus.
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posted on
11/26/2003 10:55:38 AM PST
by
Conspiracy Guy
(Ignorance can be corrected with knowledge. Stupid is permanent.)
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
The book, written from his perspective, contains a steady stream of mild swear words. Among them is the two-word phrase, which includes the "F word." If the F-word is "mild", what qualifies as harsh?
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posted on
11/26/2003 10:59:56 AM PST
by
Sloth
("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
To: MHGinTN
My daughter read this as part of her English class (9th grade) in an excellent private school. The kids were shocked by the language, but they also agreed that Holden Caulfield is an obnoxious, self-pitying, self-deluding jerk. My daughter's theory (for which she received an "A" on her final paper) is that Caulfield is insane and is writing this screed from the mental hospital. She compared this "untrustworthy narrative" to the similar Darl in Faulkner's
As I Lay Dying who is only revealed to be in the mental hospital in Jackson towards the end of the book.
I don't see what the fuss is about. The book will convince any thinking reader that profanity (while not an infallible sign) does seem to follow classless, stupid, obnoxious people around . . . .
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posted on
11/26/2003 11:00:06 AM PST
by
AnAmericanMother
(. . . sed, ut scis, quis homines huiusmodi intellegere potest?. . .)
To: dead
The kid is 17 years old. It might be time for him to toughen up a bit.He obviously has the courage to stand by his convictions.
I call that being pretty "tough".
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posted on
11/26/2003 11:00:29 AM PST
by
Willie Green
(Go Pat Go!!!)
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