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U.S. soldier accused of beating Iraqi prisoners says, `It is war'
SFgate ^ | (11-25) 10:26 PST PHILADELPHIA (AP) -- | DAVID B. CARUSO

Posted on 11/26/2003 9:53:19 AM PST by ConservativeMan55

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:45:00 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

U.S. soldier accused of beating Iraqi prisoners says, `It is war'

One of four American MPs charged with beating prisoners of war at a detention camp in Iraq said Tuesday: "We were doing our jobs. ... It is war. It is not back home where everybody is safe."


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: beating; iraq; mp; police; pow; staff; war
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To: Eagle Eye; r9etb
Cool it.
161 posted on 11/26/2003 12:47:44 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator
Today's Zot Threat Level Is Cornflower Blue! LOL!
162 posted on 11/26/2003 12:48:45 PM PST by ConservativeMan55 (The left always "feels your pain" unless of course they caused it.)
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To: ConservativeMan55
The enemy must be encouraged to surrender- not to fight on LOL!


I don't know any more about what happened in that chaotic compound than you do.
We both know there were 800 guards and only four of them were charged with this conduct.

163 posted on 11/26/2003 12:48:52 PM PST by mrsmith
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To: ConservativeMan55; r9etb; MPJackal
Fine. Take the Iraqi side if you want to.

I take the side of the US military, which has a vested interest in good order and discipline.

But it remains to be seen that NO ONE. Not a single soul has accused her of beating the Iraqi prisoner unprovoked.

Aside from the Staff Judge Advocate and her commanding officer, of course.

164 posted on 11/26/2003 12:49:23 PM PST by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
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To: Eagle Eye
YOU took sides against the enemy and willingly told fibs to do it.

Why yes, I have taken sides against the enemy.

But -- granting that you made a typo -- it is not "supporting the enemy" to be against American guards beating prisoners.

In saying it was unprovoked, I am content to follow the findings of the American military authorities, who -- having looked into the facts of the case -- evidently believe as I do.

Are you really going to tell us that the American military authorities who brought this case against those four guards are "taking the side of the enemy?"

Where did you say you were, again?

165 posted on 11/26/2003 12:49:53 PM PST by r9etb
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To: ConservativeMan55
But isn't every Iraqi suspect of attacking US Soldiers. Isn't every Iraqi a possible threat. Besides I believe the Article said, she said, she wanted to teach him how to treat women. How does that become self defense.
166 posted on 11/26/2003 12:51:24 PM PST by commonerX
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To: r9etb
Where did you say you were, again?

I think he said he was deep in the Huertgen Forest or something like that.

167 posted on 11/26/2003 12:52:45 PM PST by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
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To: ConservativeMan55
Two things, we should not be putting reservists into this sort of situation, and no, I don't believe that beating prisoners of war is a just way to treat them.

Why do I not condone the beatings of POW's?

Because I can't condone beating theirs, while condemning them if they beat ours.

It's rough being the good guy, but I don't see a choice other than being the "good guys" in this situation.
168 posted on 11/26/2003 12:52:49 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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To: ConservativeMan55
"And she says that the prisoner attacked her."

Where does she say that?

169 posted on 11/26/2003 12:54:07 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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To: ConservativeMan55
What she said, according to testimony by another recruit, was that the beatings were done to "teach the prisoner a lesson on how to treat women."
170 posted on 11/26/2003 12:56:03 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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To: ConservativeMan55
Thanks, been meaning to change that.
171 posted on 11/26/2003 12:56:36 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: ConservativeMan55
"Where in the world does it say that the filthy Iraqi terrorist wasn't attacking the other soldiers?"

Where does it say that they were?

172 posted on 11/26/2003 12:57:41 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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To: r9etb
It's late or very early, depending on your perspective. GMT+3, so techically it Thanksgiving.

Be thankful you're not here spouting your stuff.
173 posted on 11/26/2003 1:07:00 PM PST by Eagle Eye (I'm a RINO. I'm far too conservative to be a real Republican.)
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To: Eagle Eye
Thank You For Your Service.
174 posted on 11/26/2003 1:09:47 PM PST by ConservativeMan55 (The left always "feels your pain" unless of course they caused it.)
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To: Eagle Eye
God bless you. Thanks, so very much.
175 posted on 11/26/2003 1:11:00 PM PST by laotzu
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To: r9etb
What the heck is an "orbitologist?"

176 posted on 11/26/2003 1:22:17 PM PST by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: mrsmith
"Nothings perfect but the USMC works very well. "
Should be UCMJ.

"We both know there were 800 guards "
100 guards.

AAAaarggh!

177 posted on 11/26/2003 1:24:19 PM PST by mrsmith
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To: ConservativeMan55; laotzu
The thanks really go to the troops.They've got it tough. I'm just here to help take care of them. Got me a REMF job, complete with office.

Dang! Got lightening and thunder on the way!

Time for bed...
178 posted on 11/26/2003 1:30:25 PM PST by Eagle Eye (I'm a RINO. I'm far too conservative to be a real Republican.)
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To: Eagle Eye
Pass along to them my admiration as well.

Safe & happy Thanksgiving.

179 posted on 11/26/2003 1:59:12 PM PST by laotzu
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To: Steel Wolf
I know, I meant that as no disrespect to you. These guys are some of the worst the world has to offer. What are we going to do with these bad seeds anyway?
180 posted on 11/26/2003 2:05:58 PM PST by Lijahsbubbe (Take my advice; I don't use it anyway.)
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