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Support Mounting for Stronger Assault-Weapons Ban (know the enemy)
Join Together ^ | 11-20-03 | Dick Dahl

Posted on 11/25/2003 2:11:18 PM PST by Dan from Michigan

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To: TC Rider
Touching story.
You're a great American and a role model.
41 posted on 11/26/2003 6:40:43 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: Flyer
Oh, he could, but will he?
42 posted on 11/26/2003 6:41:09 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: c-b 1
Well done. Back when this abhomination was passed, I was dealing with the unholy trinity of Mikulski, Hoyer, and Sarbanes ... their disgreement wasn't always respectful.
43 posted on 11/26/2003 6:49:17 AM PST by ArrogantBustard
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To: longtermmemmory
did the second amendment make a difference in 2000 and 2002?

I seem to recall none other than der Arkanfuhrer hisself blaming the NRA for the Democrats' woes back in 2000. The gun issue was certainly in play - particularly in states such as Tennessee (Gore's "home") and West Virginia (heavily union-aligned voting history). Both of those states should've been easy for Gore to pick up - but for the pro-gun voters.

44 posted on 11/26/2003 6:52:05 AM PST by Cloud William
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To: chainsaw
Only because DeLay said it would never get to Bush's desk.

Precisely. It's just part of the political game. Insulate the President from attacks, and let the House take the heat if they bottle it up.
45 posted on 11/26/2003 6:53:32 AM PST by July 4th
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To: risk
LOL.......target rich environment indeed.....tick ....tick ....tick......

Merry Turkey Day Risk ! Be thankful for what we still have......for now !

Stay Safe !

46 posted on 11/26/2003 7:08:11 AM PST by Squantos (Support Mental Health !........or........ I'LL KILL YOU !!!!)
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To: Dan from Michigan
(On Nov. 17, the McCarthy-Conyers bill in the House had 106 co-sponsors and the Lautenberg bill in the Senate had six.)
How many Representatives are there in the House of Congress ?.
47 posted on 11/26/2003 7:09:44 AM PST by reloader (Shooting- The only sport endorsed by the Founding Fathers.)
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To: Dan from Michigan
Ever notice that when a leftist group talks about "grassroots" efforts they reference organizations whose primary source of income is from a very few obscenely wealthy donors?

Just how many dues paying members does HCI or the VPC have? I would bet a buck that it is less than 50,000 each, nationwide compared to the NRA with 4.5 MILLION and even the GOA who has 500,000.
48 posted on 11/26/2003 7:18:39 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: blackie
Got your homeland security rifle, yet?
49 posted on 11/26/2003 7:19:15 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
Even the freedom haters admit that this was a check he wrote knowing it would never be cashed. If Bush actually believed that the bill ever had a chance to get to his desk, he would have never said it because he KNOWS that Arkansas, Tennessee, West Virginia, Florida and several other states carried him precisely because of the Rat anti-gun policies that gwhore represented. He is also keenly aware that his dad's anti-gun stance was partially responsible for throwing him out.

Personally, I believe that if the bill actually came to his desk, he would have to veto it and reneg on his promise to sign it or face rejection at the polls.

I for one, if given the choice between two anti-gun candidates, will not vote to cut my own throat and will simply stay home.
50 posted on 11/26/2003 7:48:19 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: ExSoldier
"They never learn."


51 posted on 11/26/2003 8:04:57 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: TC Rider
LOL! I found that adapt/adopt error in my own book's first edition. I corrected it in the second printing (out next week).


52 posted on 11/26/2003 8:06:51 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Dan from Michigan
CoSponsors in the Senate (Lautenberg bill):

Boxer, Corzine, Mikulski, Sarbanes, Clinton, Kerry, Reed.

53 posted on 11/26/2003 8:13:00 AM PST by ninenot (So many cats, so few recipes)
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To: cryptical; the gillman@blacklagoon.com; Dan from Michigan
Here's how this will work.

The Bill will NOT be brought up during Bush's current term. Instead, it will be brought after the next election. THEN Bush will sign it.

If you don't think that DeLay and Co. will fold on this, please look carefully at the new Medicare Drug Spending Explosion's legislative history.
54 posted on 11/26/2003 8:16:17 AM PST by ninenot (So many cats, so few recipes)
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To: belmont_mark
Making sense has nothing to do with this issue.

The issue is whether the Leviathan will prevail, headed by ANY party. And there's a good question...
55 posted on 11/26/2003 8:18:23 AM PST by ninenot (So many cats, so few recipes)
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To: Joe Brower
The Second Amendment...
America's Original Homeland Security!

Be Well ~ Be Armed ~ Be Safe ~ Molon Labe!
56 posted on 11/26/2003 9:25:54 AM PST by blackie
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To: Blood of Tyrants
You bet, I also have one of these as a backup:

Mossberg 500 PorchDuster.

57 posted on 11/26/2003 9:34:02 AM PST by blackie
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To: El Gato
"...BUT it will be offered as a floor amendment to some "must pass" bill. The original AW ban was not a stand alone bill, although there was one with identical or nearly identical provisions, but rather was "folded in" to an "Omnibus Crime Bill". This time it might be an "omnibus terror bill" or some appropriations/authorization bill."

DING! DING! DING!

You're the winner. This is exactly what will happen. I spoke to Arlen Specter last Saturday at a Town Hall type meeting. In answer to a previous question he said that he was against a renewal or extension of the ban and would vote against it.

I pinned him down a bit more. I reminded him that the first ban was part of a larger package that was deemed to be urgent and asked if this came up as part of a package that 'had' to pass, would he sign it on to it? HE SAID YES. I then said, "...more important than the rights that you just acknowledged that we had...". AGAIN HE SAID YES! Fighting terrorism is more important.

So, all of you who think this doesn't have a chance, THINK AGAIN.

He made some more damning statements, but he made it clear to me how they intend to get this passed.

58 posted on 11/26/2003 10:24:37 AM PST by Badray (Molon Labe!)
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To: Travis McGee
LOL! I found that adapt/adopt error in my own book's first edition. I corrected it in the second printing (out next week).

Once again highlighting the difference between a spell checker and a editor/proofreader.

59 posted on 11/26/2003 10:47:25 AM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: TC Rider
Tell me about it! If you only knew the have of it!
60 posted on 11/26/2003 10:58:46 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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