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Bid to block license law has immigrants on edge
NAPA News ^ | November 24, 2003 | DAVID RYAN

Posted on 11/24/2003 2:18:57 PM PST by yonif

Gabriel Ide lives in fear of being involved in a car accident.

The 19-year-old St. Helena resident drives his mother's minivan to his classes at Santa Rosa Junior College with more on his mind than the average driver.

One fender bender or stop by the police and the truth would be discovered: Ide does not have a driver license because he is not an American citizen.

Ide has lived in the country on a tourist visa since he was five years old. His father, a resident alien in the United States, and his mother both have legal Social Security numbers. But Ide is not his father's biological son and right now there is no path to legal status for him.

"My biggest fear is that somebody rear-ends me," Ide said. "I wouldn't know what to do if the police came."

Ide is caught in the crossfire of rapidly shifting state policy. In the weeks before the recall election, then-Gov. Gray Davis signed a measure, SB 60, that would allow non-residents to get driver licenses. But Davis' replacement, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, has vowed to block the measure.

When Davis signed the law on Sept. 5, Ide's parents consulted an attorney to help him gather what he needs to apply for his license when the law takes effect on Jan. 2: A Mexican identification card, his birth certificate and an Internal Revenue Service tax identification number designed for foreign investors.

Proponents say the new law will make the roads safer by forcing undocumented residents like Ide to carry insurance and show they know how to drive in California. Republicans in the legislature say the law rewards illegal immigration and provides a dangerous security loophole for terrorists.

However, Republicans don't have large numbers in Sacramento and they don't control the committees that grant life or death to proposed laws.

"What we do have," said Bill Bird, communications director for State Sen. Rico Oller (R-San Andreas), "is a new sheriff in town by the name of Arnold Schwarzenegger."

During his first week in office, Schwarzenegger called for special sessions of the legislature to tackle the state budget, worker's compensation reform and SB 60.

Bird said Schwarzenegger personally instructed Oller to lead the fight against SB 60. Last week, Oller introduced a senate bill to repeal the law.

Today, Oller's bill heads to the Democratically-controlled transportation committee.

It takes a two-thirds majority to overturn the law, requiring about 12 Democratic senators to switch sides. Bird is confident Republicans will be able to influence their Democratic colleagues by gathering signatures to place SB 60 on the statewide ballot.

"The referendum effort is the hammer behind this legislation," he said. "(Democrats) do not want to see this on the ballot, just as they did not want to see the recall on the ballot."

Bird said GOP petition pushers will work the crowds of bargain hunters outside stores on the day after Thanksgiving.

"The grassroots that got the recall going is the same grassroots that will get SB 60 on the ballot," Bird said.

Dan Savage, press secretary for east Los Angeles State Sen. Gil Cedillo, the author of SB 60, said he thought it would be a hard sell to win a majority of Democrats.

His boss is open to discussion of a compromise bill that would require background checks, but Schwarzenegger hasn't provided details about what kind of background checks he would accept, if any.

"From his perspective, (Schwarzenegger) doesn't have to offer too many details," Savage said. "He wants to repeal the law."

Added to the legislative furor are threats from the Internal Revenue Service that it will block anyone it knows wants to obtain a key tax identification number to obtain a California driver license.

Cedillo wrote SB 60 to require individual taxpayer identification numbers, or ITINs, as a replacement for Social Security numbers and a way to meet requirements of federal child support laws.

Jesse Weller, a spokesman for the IRS, said ITINs were originally intended for foreign investors with business interests in the United States. That way, not only could foreign business people pay U.S. taxes, but they could claim their spouses and children as dependents -- even if they are citizens of other countries.

Weller wouldn't go on the record to describe how the IRS would check on the identity and purpose of applicants for ITIN numbers. He would only say the IRS would pursue enforcement of tax violations.

Bernardo Mendez, a spokesman with the Mexican Consulate in San Francisco, indicated hope for the law among Latinos was waning.

Immediately after Gov. Davis signed the bill, he said interest in obtaining Mexican identification cards from the consulate jumped about 30 percent.

"In the beginning (Latinos) were enthusiastic, they were optimistic," he said. "But after two or three weeks they realized this law wouldn't be enacted."

Although the Mexican government has no official opinion on the issue, the idea of repealing SB 60 struck Mendez as unfortunate.

"All these people have the need of driving to work, because you know most of these people are workers," he said. "We haven't found that terrorists are coming from the Mexican border."

Neither fear of political changes nor the IRS has stopped Ide from pursuing his plans. He believes that on Jan. 2, he'll be able to apply for his licensee.

"I don't really drive that much just for pleasure, just for places I need to go," Ide said. "Basically it's going to take the load off my back, I can stop worrying so much. That's basically it. I'm a nervous wreck every time I hop in."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; illegalimmigrants; immigrantlist; immigrants; immigration; license
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1 posted on 11/24/2003 2:18:58 PM PST by yonif
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To: yonif
Would that illegals were on edge because the probability of their immanent deportation was near 100%.
2 posted on 11/24/2003 2:22:28 PM PST by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules.)
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To: yonif

3 posted on 11/24/2003 2:26:05 PM PST by GalaxieFiveHundred
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To: RKV
If I am a citizen and I drive and but don't have a license, am I an Undocumented Driver? Shouldn't the government give me a license? So many sarcastic questions and so little time.
4 posted on 11/24/2003 2:27:31 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Ignorance can be corrected with knowledge. Stupid is permanent.)
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To: *immigrant_list; A Navy Vet; Lion Den Dan; Free the USA; Libertarianize the GOP; madfly; B4Ranch; ..
ping
5 posted on 11/24/2003 2:39:05 PM PST by gubamyster
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To: yonif
Typical leftist tripe. They try pulling on your heart strings to get you to feel sorry for these people who are in the country illegally.
6 posted on 11/24/2003 2:45:07 PM PST by wjcsux
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To: yonif
FREEP THIS SURVEY

http://www.thekcrachannel.com/politics/2661334/detail.html

 

7 posted on 11/24/2003 2:49:10 PM PST by VU4G10 (Have You Forgotten?)
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To: yonif
Yo! Gabriel! Lemme tell you how you clear up your problem. First your resident alien parents (if they are legal) apply for American citizenship as they should have done years ago!

Second, you get your butt back to Mexico!

Third, since your parents will eventually become citizens (like they should have done years ago) they will be able to apply to have you on the list for an immigrant visa. (While your butt is back in Mexico, of course!) That's what is known as waiting your turn as legal immigrants have always done when they came to this country.

Other than that, I have no sympathy for you!
8 posted on 11/24/2003 2:58:09 PM PST by navyblue
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To: yonif
Bid to block license law has immigrants on edge

They left out a very crucial word in this headline. Here, let me fix it...

Bid to block license law has ILLEGAL immigrants on edge

There. Much more accurate.

9 posted on 11/24/2003 3:00:21 PM PST by Prime Choice (Conservative: One who doesn't believe that turning the U.S. into a third-world nation is 'progress'.)
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To: Prime Choice
Thank you!!!

That headline is making us LEGAL immigrants look bad...

10 posted on 11/24/2003 3:04:37 PM PST by El Conservador ("No blood for oil!"... Then don't drive, you moron!!!)
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To: Prime Choice
Bid to block license law has ILLEGAL immigrants on edge

If they're still here, they're not enough on edge.

11 posted on 11/24/2003 3:15:43 PM PST by SCalGal
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To: Flurry
You inna' heapa' trouble, boy. Driving wit'out a license. I guess we ought to see if we can buy your vote, then decide about the ticket?
12 posted on 11/24/2003 3:36:05 PM PST by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules.)
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To: yonif
How much less would this country weigh if all the illegals were deported?
13 posted on 11/24/2003 3:38:52 PM PST by vladog
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To: vladog
Best estimates are that there are 8 million illegal aliens in the US. Times an average of 150 pounds per person is 1.2 x10^9 pounds.
14 posted on 11/24/2003 3:45:47 PM PST by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules.)
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To: navyblue
I don't know if I agree with you in every circumstance. The guy was 5 years old when he came to the U.S. I know of a man who was in his 50s, having lived here since he was a baby, illegally. He was deported to his native country. He didn't speak any language except English, knew no one in that country, and had to leave his family behind, they being U.S. born American citizens.

Should an exception be made when the illegal immigrant involved was a child of tender years when he was brought to this country? I think it's a different situation than that of an adult who comes here illegally. The child had no control over the situation and no clue about immigration laws.

15 posted on 11/24/2003 3:47:12 PM PST by cookiedough
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To: cookiedough
How many times has the federal government offered instant citizenship to any illegal who applies and has been living in the US for a while? Mexico lets them hold dual citizenship. If they have been here that long and haven't applied for amnesty, I have no sympathy.
16 posted on 11/24/2003 3:52:48 PM PST by ReagansShinyHair
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To: yonif
Ide has lived in the country on a tourist visa since he was five years old.

So the parents are guilty of breaking the law. Send them all back to their nation of citizenship, where they can drive with a clean conscience.

17 posted on 11/24/2003 4:02:03 PM PST by Earl B.
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To: yonif
From the article: "Ide has lived in the country on a tourist visa since he was five years old. His father, a resident alien in the United States, and his mother both have legal Social Security numbers. But Ide is not his father's biological son and right now there is no path to legal status for him. "

The awkward wording here suggests to me that the author is intentionally trying to hide the fact that the "parents" are not married. The article seems to downplay the issue of how somebody came to the US on a tourist visa and "forgot" to end the tour.

18 posted on 11/24/2003 4:18:47 PM PST by William Tell
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To: VU4G10
90% say NO licenses to illegal aliens.
19 posted on 11/24/2003 4:20:12 PM PST by janetgreen (Tancredo for President)
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To: yonif
I've never understood why people think a**holes who drive with no licenses, registeration or insurance will pay $xxx for insurance just because we give them a free license.
20 posted on 11/24/2003 4:23:31 PM PST by ibbryn (this tag intentionally left blank)
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