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US troops to shift from S. Korea
Free North Korea! ^ | November 24, 2003 | Richard Halloran

Posted on 11/24/2003 8:18:06 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster

US troops to shift from S. Korea

By Richard Halloran

The United States will reassign some troops from South Korea to Afghanistan and Iraq and shift most of the 7,000 people in its headquarters in Seoul out of the capital beginning within a year, military officials say.

Thought also is being given to disbanding the United Nations headquarters in South Korea and ending the practice of keeping a four-star general in command of operations in the country.

The moves are part of a gradual disengagement of U.S. land forces from Korea and a greater reliance on sea power to maintain the American security posture in Asia.

Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld flew through northeastern Asia last week, sprinkling clues about the future of U.S. military dispositions even as he reaffirmed U.S. treaty commitments to South Korea and Japan. Other officials filled in details.

A primary reason for pulling back from South Korea is that the United States needs the 17,000 soldiers of the 2nd Infantry Division elsewhere. As Mr. Rumsfeld and military leaders have said repeatedly, U.S. forces are stretched thin. The U.S. Army has only 10 divisions and cannot afford to have one tied down in Korea.

Mr. Rumsfeld told the Korean news agency, Yonhap, that the Pentagon has worked out a concept for adjusting force levels in Korea, that discussions have begun with the Korean government and that, within six months, the U.S. Congress will be informed of the plan.

He said the 2nd Division would not be sent to Iraq or Afghanistan but that individual soldiers serving in Korea almost certainly would be assigned to those nations. The division itself will move to posts south of Seoul to be near airfields where soldiers will prepare for contingencies elsewhere in Asia. The 37,000 U.S. troops in Korea today will be cut to an undetermined number. Military officers said that the Pentagon will shift most of the 7,000 people in its headquarters in Seoul out of the capital, beginning within a year, and that an undisclosed number would be sent back to the United States. They said technology would permit the headquarters to operate with fewer people. U.S. officials are negotiating terms of the transfer; the United States has long said it would move the headquarters out of Seoul if the Korean government would pay for the transfer. Korean defense officials have been balking at that. In addition, they are said to fear a loss in operating ability if the U.S. headquarters were moved from its current location across the street from the South Korean Ministry of Defense. The desire to make other use of the 2nd Division is enhanced by South Korea's rejection of a U.S. request that it send a division of 12,000 soldiers to secure a sector in Iraq. Seoul will post only 3,000 troops, including the 700 already there. Most will be noncombatants, meaning the United States or another country might have to furnish forces to protect them. Another reason for drawing down in Korea is the anti-Americanism that has become so widespread that moving U.S. troops out of Seoul and populated areas north of the capital will ease tensions only slightly. In a discussion of South Korea and North Korea, an American officer said, only half-joking, "Sometimes I wonder which one is really our adversary." Moreover, President Bush and President Roh Moo-hyun of South Korea disagree on how to dissuade North Korea from acquiring nuclear weapons, despite superficial agreement on tactics. The U.S. president advocates a firm approach, while the South Korean leader would be more accommodating. Evidently no precise timetable has been set for the changes, but Mr. Rumsfeld suggested that they would be under way in the next five years. In addition to headquarters and troop movements, U.S. officials have begun to consider disbanding the United Nations headquarters, which has been there since the Korean War of 1950 to 1953.

The Combined Forces Command, which gives the United States operational control over Korean troops, will be dissolved, ending a situation that has long irritated nationalistic Koreans.

Finally, the position of the four-star U.S. Army general, who today commands the U.N. mission, the Combined Forces Command, and U.S. troops, most likely will be abolished in favor of a lower-ranking commander. The four-star flag might be moved to the headquarters of the U.S. Army in the Pacific in Hawaii, as many senior Army officers have advocated.

Mr. Rumsfeld dropped clues about the changes during his flight to Guam, telling the traveling press that the Pentagon has been reviewing force deployments and "we're now at a stage where we can begin discussing [that] with our allies and with Congress."

Aboard the Navy command ship Blue Ridge in Yokosuka, Japan, Mr. Rumsfeld pointed to an increased reliance on sea power, saying: "I think those of you who are serving in the Navy are going to see the responsibilities of the United States Navy increase generally, and increase particularly here."

Addressing Americans in Okinawa, where most U.S. forces in Japan are posted, the defense secretary said, "We've got to continue to pull down deployments."

He said some peacetime overseas deployments would continue but added: "Once they do that job, they ought not to be there any longer." American troops have been in Korea since the Korean War.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2ndid; afghanistan; america; combinedforces; iraq; redeployment; rumsfeld; skorea; southkorea; unheadquarter

1 posted on 11/24/2003 8:18:06 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: OahuBreeze; AmericanInTokyo; yonif; Steel Wolf; Eric in the Ozarks; ALOHA RONNIE
Ping!
2 posted on 11/24/2003 8:19:28 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster
This should scare the hell out of the South Koreans and the Japanese.

Time for them to get off of their duff.

3 posted on 11/24/2003 8:25:18 AM PST by lormand (Dead People Vote DemocRAT)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Long overdue.
4 posted on 11/24/2003 8:29:00 AM PST by KriegerGeist ("The weapons of our warefare are not carnal, but mighty though God for pulling down of strongholds")
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To: Geist Krieger
"Long overdue." I concur. Now if they would just re-assign them to our northern and southern borders. Semper Fi
5 posted on 11/24/2003 8:43:10 AM PST by kellynla ("C" 1/5 1st Mar Div. Viet Nam 69 &70 Semper Fi!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
The four-star flag might be moved to the headquarters of the U.S. Army in the Pacific in Hawaii, as many senior Army officers have advocated.

If the U.S. Army has only 10 divisions, why would there need to be more than one four-star General?

Abolish the position.

6 posted on 11/24/2003 8:54:02 AM PST by Lessismore
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Shifting further south is a long overdue move. There is no reason for us to be sitting in such vulnerable positions, aside from a gallant if outdated political gesture.

Bringing them south to guard the airfields will keep the arteries of a counterattack open. Any strategy for defending South Korea has got to look at being able to absorb the opening shock, and being able to mass a counterattack. The ROKs are more than capable of delaying the KPA at the border, but what they really need is the devastating counterattack that only we can provide.

7 posted on 11/24/2003 9:08:04 AM PST by Steel Wolf (Too close for guns, switching to missiles!)
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To: Steel Wolf
Let them Anti-American Koreans get run-over by the north again. Their populous is in need of more attrocites to remind them who their friends are and who their enemies are AGAIN. Long overdue and the faster the pull out the faster they will realize this.
8 posted on 11/24/2003 9:25:38 AM PST by AppauledAtAppeasementConservat
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To: Lessismore
As to the number of 4-star Generals needed, you have a 4-star General as Chief of Staff of the Army. The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs and the Vice-Chairman can also be 4-Star Army Generals. Also, there are Unified Combatant Commands such as Northern, Southern (might be downgraded to a 3-star slot), Central, European, Special forces, Joint Forces and Transportation Commands, that might have a 4-Star Army General as their respective commanders.


9 posted on 11/24/2003 9:27:43 AM PST by BushMeister
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Good couple of moves!
10 posted on 11/24/2003 11:42:32 AM PST by Brian Allen ( Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: kellynla
First: Thak you for your service to our (your) country.

"Now if they would just re-assign them to our northern and southern borders."

Now, I concur with that!

How about if our troops that are no longer needed (or wanted) in Germany, be re-assigned to Afghanistan & Iraq and send home the National Guard troops and many Reserve forces for our "border guard" or "U.S. National Border Guard"??

As we are not welcome in Germany any longer and Germany won't help the U.S. with Iraq, then let us take our balls and bats and use them where needed elsewhere...

I would also like your view on a continous replacement of our "regular troops" with more Special Forces / Special Ops troops? I'm talking about the really mean and silent and sneakin-in-the-shadows-types and deadly effective "covert black-ops-types"? The type of troops that are not riding around in convoys or walking patrols, but who only come out to play (hunt that is) for keeps and never come home without their limit of varments? And why are we not doing that???

Let's face it, these foreign terrorists (called "insurgents" by the media) are playing dirty and not by "Marcus of Queensbury rules"...

So, like in Viet Nam, we had to learn and adapt and fight the enemy as the enemy fought us, then let's block out the media and their cameras, send in the special covert guys and defeat these vermin by their rules once and for all? I'm sure they would respect and fear that motis operendii...

11 posted on 11/24/2003 11:45:04 AM PST by KriegerGeist ("The weapons of our warefare are not carnal, but mighty though God for pulling down of strongholds")
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To: Lessismore
Army Divisions have two-stars ...

Corps have three-stars ...

Areas/Armies/etc have four-stars ...
12 posted on 11/24/2003 11:48:40 AM PST by BlueLancer (Der Elite Møøsenspåånkængrüppen ØberKømmååndø (EMØØK))
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To: Geist Krieger
Makes sense to me. That's probably the reason they won't do it. Because it's too logical. LOL
13 posted on 11/24/2003 1:30:24 PM PST by kellynla ("C" 1/5 1st Mar Div. Viet Nam 69 &70 Semper Fi!)
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To: BlueLancer
Right. But with only 10 divisions, why do you need two full layers of management above the two-stars. You only need one layer of three-stars, reporting in to a single four-star.
14 posted on 11/24/2003 2:55:43 PM PST by Lessismore
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