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Three U.S. Troops Killed in Iraq (Pummeled them with Concrete Rocks!)
Yahoo ^ | 11/23/03

Posted on 11/23/2003 1:27:33 PM PST by areafiftyone

MOSUL, Iraq - Iraqi teenagers dragged the bloody bodies of two American soldiers from a wrecked vehicle and pummeled them with concrete blocks Sunday, witnesses said, describing a burst of savagery in a city once safe for Americans. Another soldier was killed by a bomb and a U.S.-allied police chief was assassinated.

The U.S.-led coalition also said it grounded commercial flights after the military confirmed that a missile struck a DHL cargo plane that landed Saturday at Baghdad International Airport with its wing aflame.

Nevertheless, American officers insisted they were making progress in bringing stability to Iraq (news - web sites), and the U.S.-appointed Governing Council named an ambassador to Washington — an Iraqi-American woman who spent the last decade lobbying U.S. lawmakers to promote democracy in her homeland.

Witnesses to the Mosul attack said gunmen shot two soldiers driving through the city center, sending their vehicle crashing into a wall. The 101st Airborne Division said the soldiers were driving to another garrison.

About a dozen swarming teenagers dragged the soldiers' bodies out of the wreckage and beat them with concrete blocks, the witnesses said.

"They lifted a block and hit them with it on the face," Younis Mahmoud, 19, said.

Another teenager, Bahaa Jassim, said some looted the vehicle of weapons, CDs and a backpack.

"They remained there for over an hour without the Americans knowing anything about it," he said. "I ... went and told other troops."

Television video showed the soldiers' bodies splayed on the ground as U.S. troops secured the area. One victim's foot appeared to have been severed.

The frenzy recalled the October 1993 scene in Somalia, when locals dragged the bodies of Marines killed in fighting with warlords through the streets.

In Baqouba, just north of Baghdad, insurgents detonated a roadside bomb as a 4th Infantry Division convoy passed, killing one soldier and wounding two others, the military said.

In Baghdad, Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt confirmed the Mosul deaths but refused to provide details.

"We're not going to get ghoulish about it," he said.

The savagery of the attack was unusual for Mosul, once touted as a success story in sharp contrast to the anti-American violence seen in Sunni Muslim areas north and west of Baghdad.

In recent weeks, however, attacks against U.S. troops have increased in Mosul, raising concerns the insurgency is spreading.

Simultaneously, attacks have accelerated against Iraqis considered to be supporting Americans — such as policemen and politicians working for the interim Iraqi administration.

On Sunday, gunmen killed the Iraqi police chief of Latifiyah, 20 miles south of Baghdad, and his bodyguard and driver, American and Iraqi officials said. No further details were released.

The assassination occurred one day after suicide bombers struck two police stations northeast of Baghdad within 30 minutes, killing at least 14 people. Gunmen on Saturday also killed an Iraqi police colonel protecting oil installations in Mosul.

Elsewhere, Iraqi police said six U.S. Apache helicopter gunships blasted marshland after insurgents fired four rocket-propelled grenades at the American military garrison at the city's northern end. One Iraqi passer-by was killed in the air attack, police said.

In Kirkuk, 150 miles north of Baghdad, a bomb exploded at an oil compound, injuring three American civilian contractors from the U.S. firm Kellogg Brown & Root. The three suffered facial cuts from flying glass, U.S. Lt. Col. Matt Croke said.

KBR, a subsidiary of Halliburton, also has a significant presence at Baghdad's Palestine Hotel, which was rocketed by insurgents Friday, wounding one civilian.

"We all know that Americans are being threatened," Croke said.

Kimmitt told reporters in Baghdad that witnesses saw two surface-to-air missiles fired Saturday at a cargo plane operated by the Belgium-based package service DHL as it left for Bahrain.

The plane was the first civilian airliner hit by insurgents, who have shot down several military helicopters with shoulder-fired rockets.

DHL and Royal Jordanian, the only commercial passenger airline flying into Baghdad, immediately suspended flights on orders of the coalition authority.

Despite the ongoing violence, U.S. officials insisted the occupation was going well.

"If you look at the accomplishments of the coalition since March of this year, it has been enormous," Marine Gen. Peter Pace, vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said in Tikrit.

Pace is touring Afghanistan (news - web sites) and Iraq.

Also Sunday, Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari said veteran Washington lobbyist Rend Rahim Francke was appointed Iraq's ambassador to the United States. Francke, an Iraq native who has spent most of her life abroad, led the Iraq Foundation, a Washington-based pro-democracy group, and has helped plan Iraq's transition from Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s rule.

The appointment will renew the diplomatic ties between Washington and Baghdad severed in 1990 when Saddam invaded Kuwait.


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To: pickemuphere
Yes, there are plenty of Iraqis who do not like us, but I don't think it's the majority.

That said, I think one of the problems is that these people didn't ever really feel they were beaten. We basically just rolled in and took the country over and then started playing nice.

These types of attacks should be met with a HARSH response to show that there will be zero toleration for such behavior.
81 posted on 11/23/2003 2:27:40 PM PST by zencat
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To: areafiftyone
Brought to you by Islam.

The religion of pieces.

God speed my brothers.
82 posted on 11/23/2003 2:27:42 PM PST by TSgt (I am proudly featured on U.S. Rep Rob Portman's homepage: http://www.house.gov/portman/)
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To: JamesA
We must be smarter, meaner and a hell of a lot more agressive, to the point where a bad guy pee's his pants at just the thought of doing injury to an American

Amen.

83 posted on 11/23/2003 2:28:22 PM PST by cgk (Kraut, 1989: We must brace ourselves for disquisitions on peer pressure, adolescent anomie & rage.)
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To: huck von finn
As if the body in that pic is recognizable...

This is what got my attention....nice thing to post with military families posting on this thread..

84 posted on 11/23/2003 2:29:09 PM PST by Dog
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To: areafiftyone
Suddenly I understand why occupying armies summarily execute by firing squad, say, a dozen peers of the assassins for every one of theirs that are ambushed.

How many dozens of their fellow citizens would it take for them to cease and desist their murderous behavior?

85 posted on 11/23/2003 2:29:42 PM PST by DCPatriot
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To: areafiftyone
Savages.
86 posted on 11/23/2003 2:30:51 PM PST by tomahawk
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To: areafiftyone
About a dozen swarming teenagers dragged the soldiers' bodies out of the wreckage and beat them with concrete blocks, the witnesses said.

These people are animals.

87 posted on 11/23/2003 2:32:05 PM PST by PLK
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To: areafiftyone
Time to unleash the Kurds!!!
88 posted on 11/23/2003 2:35:40 PM PST by BBell
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To: The Great RJ
The perpetrators should be found, publically tried by a military tribunal and also very publically executed.

By stoning!

89 posted on 11/23/2003 2:36:21 PM PST by Aeronaut (In my humble opinion, the new expression for backing down from a fight should be called 'frenching')
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To: areafiftyone
I know people may find what I am about to write inappropriate because I claim to be a Christian and have a username with preacher in it.

To be honest, there are times when I question the wisdom of us being in Iraq (not considering all of the arguments for or against based on WMD, terror threats, etc.), but when I read stories like this, I become so outraged that I want to hurt these people!

I wonder how many people hearing these reports, instead of being horrified and wanting to bring our troops home, will become solidified in supporting the war! One thing is for sure, people are NOT going to support a war where American boys (and girls) are sitting ducks while the enemy seems to be treated with kid gloves.

My gut reaction (and this may be entirely inappropriate): those "teenagers" pummeling the bodies should have been shot on sight! What do you think Israeli forces would have done? Let's think twice before we "cast stones" at Israel again over "excessive" force.
91 posted on 11/23/2003 2:38:23 PM PST by streetpreacher
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To: areafiftyone
Kill the teenagers. And please no people calling me a racist barbarian etc.
92 posted on 11/23/2003 2:38:40 PM PST by Democratshavenobrains
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To: don-o
It looks more and more that the troops are sitting ducks. For stateside morale, we need some news off big retaliations of such outrage as this.

I agree totally. To hell with the cultural sensitivy stuff. The farthest we should go with that is to learn enough about their shitty culture to infiltrate with our own propaganda so they begin to understand we are trying to "help" them. It may be a way to decrease the attacks by convincing some of them to turn their murderous fellow Moose Limbs in.

94 posted on 11/23/2003 2:42:46 PM PST by PLK
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To: Steve-M-46
Exactly.
95 posted on 11/23/2003 2:44:07 PM PST by Cage Rattler
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To: zencat
These types of attacks should be met with a HARSH response to show that there will be zero toleration for such behavior.

I agree. Zero tolerance!

(Sometimes, I think we're harsher on American elementary school children, who innocently bring butter knives and squirt guns to school than we are with the scum that seeks to destroy us.)

96 posted on 11/23/2003 2:44:42 PM PST by schmelvin
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To: Dog
Military families know the risks of war. Bless them, they worry every day.

I understand that you are angry, but stop trying to blame me for something I had nothing to do with. If you'd like to blame someone, blame the Iraqis who did this horrible thing, or blame whoever posted the pic.

I understand you are upset, but this isn't exactly "Saving Private Ryan." It is in fact a real war.
97 posted on 11/23/2003 2:45:41 PM PST by huck von finn
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To: areafiftyone
About a dozen swarming teenagers dragged the soldiers' bodies out of the wreckage and beat them with concrete blocks, the witnesses said. They lifted a block and hit them with it on the face," Younis Mahmoud, 19, said. Another teenager, Bahaa Jassim, said some looted the vehicle of weapons, CDs and a backpack. "They remained there for over an hour without the Americans knowing anything about it," he said. "I ... went and told other troops."

If you are willing to believe these two teenagers then you can conclude that there are at least two GOOD teenagers in the Sunni triangle who are willing to risk there lives to notify our troops.

If aren't willing to believe these two teenagers then how do you really know that a swarm of Iraqi teenagers dragged and beat these dead or dying soldiers.

My point is that when it comes to determining the level of support we have in Iraq, this incident signifies nothing.

98 posted on 11/23/2003 2:48:08 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Steve-M-46
"People will start seeing what's really happening there"




Go away.
99 posted on 11/23/2003 2:49:32 PM PST by MontanaBeth (absolute power, corrupts absolutely)
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To: pickemuphere
This should put to rest the idea that "outsiders" are indeed the ones causing problems in Iraq. The Iraqis themselves hate us; the sooner we realize this the better.

No it shouldn't.

100 posted on 11/23/2003 2:49:39 PM PST by FreeReign
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