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Three U.S. Troops Killed in Iraq (Pummeled them with Concrete Rocks!)
Yahoo ^ | 11/23/03

Posted on 11/23/2003 1:27:33 PM PST by areafiftyone

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To: areafiftyone
Journalists are comparing this incident to Somalia, but for some reason I am reminded of Los Angeles in 1992, and Israel on any given day.

I don't like finding about more U.S. deaths in Iraq every time I check the news, but that's the reality of our times. Whenever I learn about one of my countrymen dying in battle, it feels like I've been smacked in the face with a two by four. Needless to say, my virtual face looks pretty damn ugly right now.

But I don't want to be cut off from the truth, and the truth is that this is a painful, costly and vital mission that must not fail. I'll be damned if I ever lose sight of that, or forget how crucial the work of our troops is in defending my homeland.

I have a problem with the way things are being handled in Iraq, but it is not the same problem leftists have. My problem is the realization that we should not be trying to win a popularity contest in Iraq, which apparently is our goal based on our actions there.

U.S. troops being forbidden to fly our nation's flag? I will never agree with such utter nonsense. It's a disgrace, an insult to those sworn to defend our flag and the nation it represents, and a crime against those soldiers who are denied their sacred right to die under the colors of their country.

We are in Iraq to impose a new government by force, not by acclamation. After all, Saddam Hussein won 100% of the vote in the last election, a fine example of "democracy in action", and we are there overturning the "will of the people" by such euphemistic standards.

As in past wars, including those in Europe, the west Pacific and more recently in Afghanistan, we are in Iraq to neutralize a dangerous enemy and convert that enemy to an ally. We have done it before, and we'll do it again as many times as we must. We have no other choice except our own destruction.

In the Middle East, nice guys do indeed finish last, and become the targets of opportunity for every bad guy or would-be bad guy in the region, a description which includes a huge number of people.

From a strategic standpoint, I believe our forces are making a crucial mistake in Iraq: we are trying to be liked. This is the wrong approach. As things stand, the Iraqi people fear Saddam's loyalists and Al Qaeda more than they fear American troops. This leads to disrespect, which leads to contempt, which leads to mobs dragging the bodies of U.S. troops through the streets.

Every incident where U.S. troops are killed demands ruthless reprisals, informed and directed by top-notch intelligence. The U.S. Constitution applies within the borders of the United States, not to foreign war zones. Swift military tribunals and public executions must reign supreme until Iraq establishes its sovereignty and is able to stand on its own. This can all be accomplished with brutal efficiency without violating the Geneva or Hague conventions, and the alternative is not only more U.S. casualties in Iraq, but possible mission failure.

If U.S. leaders and military commanders fail in Iraq because they were too nice or politically correct, I will never forgive them, and teach my children and their children to curse their names. Do not abandon the needs of our nation for your own vanity and ambitions, lest you earn and incur the undying wrath of your countrymen.

Iraq, and the world, must come to fear the U.S. military, not love it. While we may be Iraq's liberators, we must make sure that once our troops are gone, Iraq will never want to see them return for any reason. We must ensure that the prospect of American troops returning to Iraq is far less desirable than a return to Baathist totalitarianism. And that means we must be even meaner and nastier than the Baathists.

No one, anywhere, should come to favor the presence of American troops over solving their own problems, lest we be drawn into endless conflict leading to our ultimate ruin.

My advice is a bitter prescription, especially for a people we wish to have as allies, but history shows that our best allies are those whom we have defeated soundly and indisputably in battle. That truth may be unpalatable to some who are ignorant of history and prefer fantasy to fact, but it is nonetheless the truth, against which all contrary opinion is irrelevant.

Even our closest allies, in the end, should fear our wrath. Otherwise, they will themselves eventually become enemies, and possibly our masters.

It is long past time that we demonstrate beyond contention that contempt for the U.S. is not only unprofitable, but fatal. This means doing things we'd rather not do, including lining thugs, rapists and murderers up against walls and killing them. Once such beasts are either cowed or exterminated, then, and only then, our mission becomes feasible and our nation more secure.

Having established ourselves as a strong and resolute force for justice that cannot to be opposed by any means, we can move on and rid the world of the kind of savage scum that murder women and children simply for being women and children.

President Bush, I urge you, no, I beg you to change our military policy. Please, for the sake of our warriors, their families and all Americans, please teach all enemies of the United States to fear our troops!

161 posted on 11/23/2003 4:35:15 PM PST by Imal (Respect is not given, it is taken.)
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To: homemom
Not, today...praying he's safe...all hell is breaking lose..Ramadamadingdong is ending tomorrow...expect more of this.
162 posted on 11/23/2003 4:39:21 PM PST by mystery-ak (GodSpeed, Mike.)
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To: Imal
>>Journalists are comparing this incident to Somalia, but for some reason I am reminded of Los Angeles in 1992, and Israel on any given day.<<

Who was the truck driver who got cracked with bricks on national tv?
Like I said, Downtown Detroit or Eastside Cleveland anyday.

163 posted on 11/23/2003 4:40:20 PM PST by netmilsmom (Proudly, A painful wart on the big toe of progress--No gay marriage!)
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To: huck von finn
During WWII Americans witness these same events and we all no what the end result was.

Warning Warriors Eyes Only Japanese Army's Atrocities

164 posted on 11/23/2003 4:41:25 PM PST by Major_Risktaker (I know dumb idea...)
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To: mystery-ak
I'm praying with you, lady.
165 posted on 11/23/2003 4:41:55 PM PST by netmilsmom (Proudly, A painful wart on the big toe of progress--No gay marriage!)
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To: The Great RJ
The perpetrators should be found, publically tried by a military tribunal and also very publically executed.

Yup.

And a daisycutter display just outside of town.

166 posted on 11/23/2003 4:41:55 PM PST by StriperSniper (The "mainstream" media is a left bank oxbow lake.)
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To: areafiftyone; Jalapeno
Why have the previous reports of "throats being slashed" now turned into "beaten with concrete blocks by teens?

Two different incidents I think

Per the following Fox News Report, I think it's the same incident. Please, God, let there be only two casualties rather than four so treated....

Probably the original perpetrators used knives; those who later came upon the American bodies used whatever was at hand.

167 posted on 11/23/2003 4:42:53 PM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: Imal
President Bush, I urge you, no, I beg you to change our military policy. Please, for the sake of our warriors, their families and all Americans, please teach all enemies of the United States to fear our troops!

Excellent.

This Administration is hell bent on wanting these people to be our friends and it is convinced it can build a country in our likeness. That's impossible and will never happen.

168 posted on 11/23/2003 4:43:17 PM PST by Cagey
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To: carpio
borders, seriously protect those borders and just concentrate on making America safe for Americans and Americanism they call me a goofy crank.

Goofy crank is a start.

169 posted on 11/23/2003 4:46:56 PM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: Imal
If U.S. leaders and military commanders fail in Iraq because they were too nice or politically correct, I will never forgive them, and teach my children and their children to curse their names

There it is.

Post of the Year!

170 posted on 11/23/2003 4:48:16 PM PST by don-o (Germany 1932)
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To: Imal
Well said and right on.
171 posted on 11/23/2003 4:48:50 PM PST by P.O.E.
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To: carpio
And when I suggest that we should withdraw inside our own borders, seriously protect those borders and just concentrate on making America safe for Americans and Americanism they call me a goofy crank.

That's because you don't fit into the new order. You know, this one world, great Wal-Mart economy, where protecting the borders in some piece of sh*t third world country 7,000 miles away is more inportant than protecting our very own borders....

172 posted on 11/23/2003 4:51:51 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: areafiftyone
Find Saddam.
Give him a shower.
Give him a good meal.
Buy him a new uniform.
Give that country of pigs back to him.
Bring back the shredders.
173 posted on 11/23/2003 4:53:57 PM PST by Skooz (We keep you alive to serve this ship. Row well, and live.)
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To: Lazamataz
I'll be willing to do that just as soon as you completely withdraw to your house, guard the windows and doors, and concentrate on making your living room safe for carpio and carpioism.

That is in fact precisely what I am doing at this moment. I live in the second largest city in New Mexico. We are 40 miles from the Mexican border. Local government is viley corrupt, Police protection is for the few families out of thousands that are tied in to the local Democrat elite and we live inside a six foot fence with alarms, security lights, a barky dog and long guns near every door and window because we are surrounded by thugs, gangs. drug dealers and assorted other illegal aliens.

Bring you money on down and retire in the sunny southwest.

carpio

174 posted on 11/23/2003 5:03:01 PM PST by carpio
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To: eleni121

They do understand fear and fear is what we should be providing. Absolutely - they should be executed.


Very well said. Let's get the fear factor going . . . ASAP! Execute these bastards! FAST - - but painfully!!


175 posted on 11/23/2003 5:19:22 PM PST by B-Cause
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To: netmilsmom
Reginald Denny.
176 posted on 11/23/2003 5:27:19 PM PST by wtc911
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To: Imal

If U.S. leaders and military commanders fail in Iraq because they were too nice or politically correct, I will never forgive them, and teach my children and their children to curse their names. Do not abandon the needs of our nation for your own vanity and ambitions, lest you earn and incur the undying wrath of your countrymen.


Very well said?
Thank you for your fine post.


177 posted on 11/23/2003 5:28:00 PM PST by B-Cause
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To: StriperSniper

And a daisycutter display just outside of town.


Did you mean inside of town?

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178 posted on 11/23/2003 5:33:30 PM PST by B-Cause
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To: areafiftyone
Send in the JAG.
They'll know what to do ...
179 posted on 11/23/2003 5:38:31 PM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: Joe Hadenuf
I'll say it again. That POS country isn't worth the death of one American.....How many more?

Your ignoring "POS" countries like this, that harbored terrorists such as saddam's Iraq, is a major cause of 3,000 of your countryman dying on 9/11.

Oh that's right Joe has to have a good rant without thinking, what else is new.

180 posted on 11/23/2003 5:41:34 PM PST by Dane
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