[af_vet_1981]

The af_vet guy doesn't even want people having trials when they are accused of rape or murder.

You are lying. I certainly do want perps to have trials.

Fair trials and fast hangings

I would also like to understand why you appears on the perp threads siding with the perps. I find that curious. How did they gain your allegiance?

[honeygrl]

I haven't sided with MJ on this. I'm simply holding out for some actual facts instead of rumors before I say that I believe he is without a doubt guilty. And I am not lying about what you said. You said:

"Listening to both sides with perps who rape and murder is not "okay with me." The time for listening to both sides is over. It is time for a day of reckoning."

That sounds very much like you don't want a trial at all. I think Cuba has the speedy trials you are looking for.

Why so intent on bringing the Kobe argument over here? That has zero to do with this no matter how much you try to make them out to be the same.