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Army Seeks Short-Term Payoff From Future Combat Systems
National Defense Magazine ^ | December 2003 | Sandra I. Erwin

Posted on 11/23/2003 5:19:13 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4

The Army is redirecting priorities in the Future Combat Systems program, in an attempt to meet short-term needs for new technologies. This shift in emphasis means the program will be less about developing futuristic concepts and more about upgrading the current tanks, armored infantry vehicles and trucks.

Program officials assert that the chief of staff of the Army, Gen. Peter J. Schoomaker, supports the FCS and intends to keep the $15 billion project on track to field a new family of vehicles by 2010. But the ongoing wars in Iraq and Afghanistan clearly have forced the Army to reassess the program goals. While the FCS previously was viewed as a long-term modernization effort, now the chief wants FCS to begin delivering technologies as soon as possible.

The plan is to “spin off capabilities” out of FCS into the Abrams tank and Bradley infantry vehicle fleets, said Lt. Gen. John S. Caldwell Jr., military deputy to the assistant secretary of the Army for acquisition. But he cautioned that the FCS program is not being significantly restructured or downscaled. Rather, other programs will be “adjusted” to take advantage of the new technologies developed in FCS, Caldwell told National Defense.

Since the FCS got under way more than three years ago, the predominant message heard from senior officials has been the notion of FCS as a “network” or a “system of systems” that would usher the Army into the information age.

Each FCS brigade, called a unit of action, will run 30 million lines of software. More than half of the money in the program will be allocated to ground combat vehicles and C4ISR (command, control, communications, intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance) systems.

A seamless network of light ground vehicles and aircraft remains the essence of the FCS, but program officials now are stressing that FCS is first and foremost about putting technology in the hands of soldiers. During an industry conference last month sponsored by the Army Tank-Automotive and Armaments Command, in Dearborn, Mich., the program manager for FCS, Brig. Gen. Donald F. Schenk, told contactors that they “need to work fast.”

Despite widespread skepticism that the program may not be able to deliver a new generation of vehicles to begin replacing tanks and Bradleys in less than a decade, Schenk said that the goals are achievable. But in his opening comments to the conference, he acknowledged that, with the Army at war, the focus has changed. The technologies of the FCS could “transition” to other programs “more quickly than most people think,” Schenk said.

Among the technologies that could “spiral” from FCS into the current force are wireless communications systems, active protection for vehicles, diagnostics devices to predict engine failures, hybrid-electric power units and advanced truck suspensions, said Albert Puzzuoli, deputy program executive officer for Army ground combat systems.

But for FCS to be successful, he stressed, the Army and its contractors must fix a vexing problem that affects today’s weapons systems: electronics obsolescence. The term refers to the difficulties in upgrading older weapon systems because the electronic components often are out of production and not available in the commercial market. This could pose serious hurdles as the Army figures out how to upgrade the Abrams and the Bradley, so they can remain in the fleet for at least 20 more years.

The Army’s ability to “spiral” technologies out of FCS into Abrams and Bradley depends on “how we attack our electronic obsolescence problems,” Puzzuoli told the TACOM conference. One solution would be to develop a new, less complex electronic architecture in the Abrams and Bradley that is “somewhat compatible” with FCS, he said.

Unless this matter is resolved, he added, “FCS, one day, will suffer electronic obsolescence issues.”

Puzzuoli suggested that one of the more pressing technology needs in the near future will be to equip the Abrams tanks with new or remanufactured engines. The Army had awarded a contract to Honeywell Corp. in 1999 to develop a new turbine engine, the LV100. The plan was to build 1,600 engines to be installed on all Abrams tanks and Crusader artillery vehicles. But the cancellation of Crusader and cutbacks in the Abrams upgrade program drove down the number of engines to fewer than 600. An expected higher price for the LV100 (as a result of a smaller order) and technical problems experienced in the program have prompted the Army to reassess whether it should cancel the project and start over.

“We are currently evaluating the status of that program and where the future lies,” Puzzuoli said.

The current engine, the AGT1500 turbine, is fuel guzzling, has poor reliability and high maintenance costs, he said.

In fiscal year 2004, the Army will need to overhaul more than 1,200 tank engines, a threefold increase over 12 months. The Anniston Army Depot, in Alabama, currently overhauls about 400 engines a year.

The commander of TACOM, Army Maj. Gen. N. Ross Thompson III, said he fears that shortages of key components could severely undermine the depot’s ability to deliver enough engines to meet the Army’s needs in Iraq.

The potential cancellation of the LV100 is not related to the increased need for AGT1500 engines, Thompson said in an interview. “If they don’t continue the program, we’ll have a competition to reengineer and increase the reliability and the durability of the AGT1500.”

Also of immediate need in the field is additional protection for Humvees and other trucks that are not armored. As U.S. forces in Iraq endure continuing attacks by rocket-propelled grenades, mortars and various explosive devices, TACOM officials are rushing to come up with “countermeasures,” such as armor kits.

Ideally, TACOM would like to build more of the up-armored Humvees, but the production line only can assemble 220 per month. The Army has asked for at least 3,500.

Until enough up-armored Humvees can be delivered, TACOM is providing interim alternatives, such as armor kits and a newly designed armor door that can be applied on existing Humvees. The Army’s depots will make 1,000 armor doors for immediate delivery to Iraq, Thompson said.

Armor kits also will be needed for medium and heavy trucks, he said. Future Army rotations in Iraq will see fewer Abrams and Bradleys, and more wheeled vehicles, including the new Stryker.

Upgrading Vehicles

Contractors, meanwhile, await specific direction from the Army on how it will go about transitioning from the current force to the so-called Future Force, equipped with FCS technology.

Much of the technology the Army wants in FCS already exists, experts contend. Vehicle manufacturers are coming forward with unsolicited concepts that aim to prove that.

United Defense LP, for example, recently unveiled a 20-ton armored vehicle equipped with a 120 mm gun that was fired at a shooting range in California, according the UDLP officials. The demonstrator—powered by a hybrid-electric engine—is a modified armored gun that originally was developed in the early 1990s for Army light forces and subsequently was cancelled to fund other programs.

UDLP resurrected one of the six 105 mm prototypes and installed a 120 mm gun designed at the Army’s Watervliet Arsenal.

The company claims that the vehicle is not intended to meet FCS requirements, given that the Army selected General Dynamics as the provider of direct-fire vehicles for FCS. UDLP was designated the supplier for the artillery systems.

In what appears to be a tit-for-tat move, General Dynamics unveiled its own concept for a 20-ton 105 mm howitzer, which would be compatible with the Stryker family. Company officials said the Army has not yet settled on whether the FCS howitzer will be 105 mm or 155 mm, even though UDLP is developing a 155 mm non-line-of-sight cannon for FCS.

As far as FCS requirements are concerned, the Army has been “really vague,” said Dean Lockwood, combat vehicles analyst at Forecast International, a market research firm. For that reason, “contractors are showing what is possible and what is not.”

Lockwood believes that the Army is moving toward a hybrid force of light quick-reaction and heavy armored units. “With FCS, they want something in the middle.” Stryker, he said, is the “first incarnation of FCS. It’s the test-bed and interim program for it.”

Marine Lt. Gen. James Cartwright, of the Joint Staff, called FCS “the most transformational thing that is going on in the Department of Defense.”

Given the uncertainty about future conflicts and geopolitics, “the Army knows its goals are probably ambitious,” Cartwright said in a speech to the Institute for Defense and Government Advancement. The schedule may slip, “but they’ve got the right mindset,” said Cartwright. “They’ve got a heck of a challenge.”


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: army; armytranformation; fcs; iraq; miltech; wheeledarmor
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To: jriemer
The electric drive could possibly simplify the drivetrain.

The common chassis automotive test rig (It had electric drive)was no simplification of the drive train. The mechanical parts worked ok, it was the damn software that kept sidelining the vehicle.

41 posted on 11/23/2003 7:53:50 AM PST by sauropod ("Better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt")
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
"Over how much of the earth's surface can you really go 50 mph in a Main Battle Tank with out beating the crew to death like dried peas in a gourd?

You'd be surprised.

42 posted on 11/23/2003 7:54:49 AM PST by sauropod ("Better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt")
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
No, its not an improvement over the stryker (which used to be known as a LAV) because the stryker is designed as full capability APC. The stryker is much more expensive than 'this vehicle' (SISU) and the uparmored humvee.

The revelevent question is not whether the SISU is better or worse than the stryker, the question is it better or worse than all these uparmored humvees...and the answer is yes, its better, and yes, its cheaper.

The position you could take is that many of the humvees in Iraq be replaced by LAVs, but that is cost prohibitive. They are being replaced with M1114s...but they should be replaced with something better and cheaper (more like a SISU.)

(BTW I am not advocating buying the SISU directly, but I think the approach of cheap COTS stuff for engine/transmission and suspension is definitely the way to go to build a cheap APC...which is what the M1114 is trying to be)
43 posted on 11/23/2003 7:59:50 AM PST by blanknoone
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To: sauropod
The electric drive could possibly simplify the drivetrain.

The common chassis automotive test rig (It had electric drive)was no simplification of the drive train. The mechanical parts worked ok, it was the damn software that kept sidelining the vehicle.

Well that just exposes my Mechanical engineering brain for all to see. I would never think to worry about lines of code in a drivetrain. Gears, motors, etc. not 1s & 0s are what I'm thinking about most of the time.

44 posted on 11/23/2003 8:00:26 AM PST by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4; SAMWolf
Any interest in this list, SAM?
45 posted on 11/23/2003 8:08:21 AM PST by HiJinx (Go with Courage, go with Honor, go in God's Grace. Come home when the job's done. We'll be here.)
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To: Ranger
I don't think the problem should be solved by trying to turn the unarmored humvee into an armored humvee. The mission calls for a cheap to buy (lots of 'em) and cheap to operate wheeled APC. America can (and in my opinion should) build one. I don't think the LAV is it, the LAV is a high end combat platform, and priced to match. America should design and build a cheap wheeled APC with COTS components from the truck/bus industry. In comparison, the SISU APC is cheaper then the M1114. It ain't a great APC (ala LAV/Stryker) but its a whole lot better than the M1114.
46 posted on 11/23/2003 8:08:32 AM PST by blanknoone
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To: Ranger
the H2 has no military pretensions.

The traditional Hummer, star of Operation Desert Storm and numerous Join the Army commercials over the last decade or so, is now dubbed H1, at least in civilian garb. It remains a one-step-removed MilSpec one-and-a-quarter-ton truck of tremendous off-road ability and scant civilian amenities.

The Hummer folks craftily rummaged through GM's well-stocked parts bins and came up with an engine, transmission, front suspension, and brakes from the three-quarter-ton K2500 Suburban, a rear suspension (modified for longer travel and capacity) from the Tahoe, and a steering column and shifter from the TrailBlazer--and that's just for starters.

Your local dentist probably gets a yellow hummer H2, not an H1, which could conceivably be pressed into service. If this nation was mobilized for war there would be no Hummer H1's available for civilian sale. The entire manufacturer's output would be bought up by DOD.

47 posted on 11/23/2003 8:10:08 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (CHAIRBORNE Death From Behind)
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To: blanknoone
What's the short-term production potential of the APC? The fact is that something is better than nothing in the next 18 months. We've got to get armored vehicles, whether they are hummers or something else into the rear of the military convoys. Otherwise casualty counts will increase. Al Qaeda is now using video footage of humvees getting shot up in their recruiting tapes.
48 posted on 11/23/2003 8:15:21 AM PST by Ranger
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To: sauropod
My understanding of the FCS is that it is a family of vehicles a la "common chassis", not just a replacement for the Abrams. The common chassis is a popular idea, and is likely to be pushed by the armor community. Whether other combat arms adopt the common chassis is up to them and the pentagon. The FCS is an armor program, specifically, the Future Combat System...ala the tank replacement. It may have a shared chassis with other systems like an artillery piece, IFV, scout vehicle or ammo carrier but they would be other programs not the FCS specifically.
49 posted on 11/23/2003 8:16:27 AM PST by blanknoone
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To: All
Tactical to Practical on The Hitler Channel right now. Pretty good. FCS and M1 and Mattrack.
50 posted on 11/23/2003 8:19:18 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (CHAIRBORNE Death From Behind)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
Does that thing have top hatches so the passengers can provide flank security / RPG grenadier watch & suppression?
51 posted on 11/23/2003 8:23:08 AM PST by FreedomPoster (this space intentionally blank)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
Dude, add me to the treadheads....im tired of being associated with all these "crunchies"....

19ke10 out

52 posted on 11/23/2003 8:26:52 AM PST by DCBryan1
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To: Ranger
The production potential is extremely high...we already make thousands of commercial truck/bus engine/transmission/ suspensions which is generally the limiting factor. Design it around the most popular commercial components, then divert production from commercial to military use, and we'd could have all we need in months.
Design periods can be short (The P51 mustang went from paper to flight in 120 days)and as soon as there is a design, it could be mass manufactured very quickly with COTS.
If the armor package were designed for cheapness and easy of construction, (flat rolled armor plate) I would guess we could quickly scale to produce 1000 a month within 3 months of design acceptance. The key will be to use proven off the shelf components for the complex stuff...the engine transmission, suspension, drive train etc with minimal or no modification and to avoid the BS procurement stuff that takes years.
The alternative to designing our own would be to buy SISUs...but I really don't like buying the Euroweenies stuff.
53 posted on 11/23/2003 8:28:13 AM PST by blanknoone
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To: DCBryan1; archy
Dude, add me to the treadheads

Roger that.

54 posted on 11/23/2003 8:31:27 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (CHAIRBORNE Death From Behind)
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To: blanknoone; R. Scott
Are we going back to Armored Gun Trucks?
55 posted on 11/23/2003 8:32:42 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (CHAIRBORNE Death From Behind)
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To: blanknoone; R. Scott

Untouchable

56 posted on 11/23/2003 8:42:06 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (CHAIRBORNE Death From Behind)
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To: blanknoone
This SISU thing is too damn big. What do you think of the Cobra?


57 posted on 11/23/2003 8:48:29 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (CHAIRBORNE Death From Behind)
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To: blanknoone

Eagle

58 posted on 11/23/2003 8:51:18 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (CHAIRBORNE Death From Behind)
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To: blanknoone
I like this one. Scarab


59 posted on 11/23/2003 9:03:37 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (CHAIRBORNE Death From Behind)
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To: blanknoone
VBL


60 posted on 11/23/2003 9:12:15 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (CHAIRBORNE Death From Behind)
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