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NYT: F.B.I. Scrutinizes Antiwar Rallies
The NYT ^ | Nov. 23, 2003 | ERIC LICHTBLAU

Posted on 11/22/2003 12:22:08 PM PST by summer

NYTimes.com > National

F.B.I. Scrutinizes Antiwar Rallies

By ERIC LICHTBLAU

Published: November 23, 2003

WASHINGTON, Nov. 22 — The Federal Bureau of Investigation has collected extensive information on the tactics, training and organization of antiwar demonstrators and has advised local law enforcement officials to report any suspicious activity at protests to its counterterrorism squads, according to interviews and a confidential bureau memorandum.

The memorandum, which the bureau sent to local law enforcement agencies last month in advance of antiwar demonstrations in Washington and San Francisco, detailed how protesters have sometimes used "training camps" to rehearse for demonstrations, the Internet to raise money and gas masks to defend against tear gas. The memorandum analyzed lawful activities like recruiting demonstrators, as well as illegal activities like using fake documentation to get into a secured site.

F.B.I. officials said in interviews that the intelligence-gathering effort was aimed at identifying anarchists and "extremist elements" plotting violence, not at monitoring the political speech of law-abiding protesters.

The initiative has won the support of some local police, who view it as a critical way to maintain order at large-scale demonstrations. Indeed, some law enforcement officials said they believed the F.B.I.'s approach had helped to ensure that nationwide antiwar demonstrations in recent months, drawing hundreds of thousands of protesters, remained largely free of violence and disruption.

But some civil rights advocates and legal scholars said the monitoring program could signal a return to the abuses of the 1960's and 1970's, when J. Edgar Hoover was the F.B.I. director and agents routinely spied on political protesters like the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

"The F.B.I. is dangerously targeting Americans who are engaged in nothing more than lawful protest and dissent," said Anthony Romero, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union. "The line between terrorism and legitimate civil disobedience is blurred, and I have a serious concern about whether we're going back to the days of Hoover."

Herman Schwartz, a constitutional law professor at American University who has written about F.B.I. history, said collecting intelligence at demonstrations is probably legal.

But he added: "As a matter of principle, it has a very serious chilling effect on peaceful demonstration. If you go around telling people, `We're going to ferret out information on demonstrations,' that deters people. People don't want their names and pictures in F.B.I. files."

The abuses of the Hoover era, which included efforts by the F.B.I. to harass and discredit Hoover's political enemies under a program known as Cointelpro, led to tight restrictions on F.B.I. investigations of political activities.

Those restrictions were relaxed significantly last year, when Attorney General John Ashcroft issued guidelines giving agents authority to attend political rallies, mosques and any event "open to the public."

Mr. Ashcroft said the Sept. 11 attacks made it essential that the F.B.I. be allowed to investigate terrorism more aggressively. The bureau's recent strategy in policing demonstrations is an outgrowth of that policy, officials said.

"We're not concerned with individuals who are exercising their constitutional rights," one F.B.I. official said. "But it's obvious that there are individuals capable of violence at these events. We know that there are anarchists that are actively involved in trying to sabotage and commit acts of violence at these different events, and we also know that these large gatherings would be a prime target for terrorist groups."

Civil rights advocates, relying largely on anecdotal evidence, have complained for months that federal officials have surreptitiously sought to suppress the First Amendment rights of antiwar demonstrators.

Critics of the Bush administration's Iraq policy, for instance, have sued the government to learn how their names ended up on a "no fly" list used to stop suspected terrorists from boarding planes. Civil rights advocates have accused federal and local authorities in Denver and Fresno, Calif., of spying on antiwar demonstrators or infiltrating planning meetings. And the New York Police Department this year questioned many of those arrested at demonstrations about their political affiliations, before halting the practice and expunging the data in the face of public criticism.

The F.B.I. memorandum, however, appears to offer the first corroboration of a coordinated, nationwide effort to collect intelligence regarding demonstrations.

The memorandum, circulated on Oct. 15 — just 10 days before many thousands gathered in Washington and San Francisco to protest the American occupation of Iraq — noted that the bureau "possesses no information indicating that violent or terrorist activities are being planned as part of these protests" and that "most protests are peaceful events."

But it pointed to violence at protests against the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank as evidence of potential disruption. Law enforcement officials said in interviews that they had become particularly concerned about the ability of antigovernment groups to exploit demonstrations and promote a violent agenda.

"What a great opportunity for an act of terrorism, when all your resources are dedicated to some big event and you let your guard down," a law enforcement official involved in securing recent demonstrations said. "What would the public say if we didn't look for criminal activity and intelligence at these events?"

The memorandum urged local law enforcement officials "to be alert to these possible indicators of protest activity and report any potentially illegal acts" to counterterrorism task forces run by the F.B.I. It warned about an array of threats, including homemade bombs and the formation of human chains.

The memorandum discussed demonstrators' "innovative strategies," like the videotaping of arrests as a means of "intimidation" against the police. And it noted that protesters "often use the Internet to recruit, raise funds and coordinate their activities prior to demonstrations."

"Activists may also make use of training camps to rehearse tactics and counter-strategies for dealing with the police and to resolve any logistical issues," the memorandum continued. It also noted that protesters may raise money to help pay for lawyers for those arrested.

F.B.I. counterterrorism officials developed the intelligence cited in the memorandum through firsthand observation, informants, public sources like the Internet and other methods, officials said.

Officials said the F.B.I. treats demonstrations no differently than other large-scale and vulnerable gatherings. The aim, they said, was not to monitor protesters but to gather intelligence.

Critics said they remained worried. "What the F.B.I. regards as potential terrorism," Mr. Romero of the A.C.L.U. said, "strikes me as civil disobedience."


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KEYWORDS: antiwarrallies; counterterrorism; cwii; fbi; terrorists
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To: Howlin
Let me tell ya, from being out there up close and personal w/ those pukes - it don't take much "scrutinizin'" to size 'em up!
81 posted on 11/23/2003 6:35:15 PM PST by sauropod ("Better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt")
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To: Travis McGee
Yep.
82 posted on 11/23/2003 6:37:57 PM PST by sauropod ("Better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt")
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To: RandallFlagg
I thought FrontPageMag covered that in their pamphlet "who are the anti-war left?"
83 posted on 11/23/2003 6:41:45 PM PST by sauropod ("Better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt")
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To: risk
In the absence of a fiery hot cold war, we feel we can afford to "do things right." That's another positive side of Bush that is overlooked by the center and the left!

Ain't that the Lord's own truth. Finally, we have a man for a leader, not some sniveling poll watcher like Clinton who never had a clue as to what made and makes America great.

Unlike others, Bush and company KNOW that it takes a complete sea change in the Middle East, a radical departure from the never ending slow carnage of years and decades past.

We live in very historic times, my friend, and I'm proud to be on the right side of affairs today.

84 posted on 11/23/2003 7:14:53 PM PST by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in groups or whole armies.....we don't care how we getcha, but we will)
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To: BOBTHENAILER; sauropod
"Hmmm...almost time for huntin' season."


85 posted on 11/23/2003 7:54:13 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: DoughtyOne
I suspect what the leftist media is worried about most, is that the FBI will figure out that union funds are being paid to union members to get them on the streets. We have noticed that the same union members seem to show up at different protests in the Los Angeles area. Their printed signs leave little doubt that some their appearances are more than spontanious individual efforts.

About F'n time.
86 posted on 11/23/2003 8:00:40 PM PST by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: Travis McGee; BOBTHENAILER
How 'boutcha "LongArm?" Ya gotta copy? Come on!
87 posted on 11/23/2003 8:01:02 PM PST by SierraWasp (Like, hey man, SHIFT_HAPPENS!!! Besides, who wants to be SHIFTLESS???)
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To: SierraWasp
Longarm doesn't look like anybody I'd want pissed at me in a major way.
88 posted on 11/23/2003 8:17:43 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee
"Hmmm...almost time for huntin' season."

The day grows closer and the huntin' will be good. Mighty subversive looking tome, that gent is a perusin'?

Seems I mighta seen it somewheres.

89 posted on 11/23/2003 8:26:50 PM PST by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in groups or whole armies.....we don't care how we getcha, but we will)
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To: SierraWasp; Travis McGee
How 'boutcha "LongArm?" Ya gotta copy? Come on!

I'd give mine, but then, I'd have to islamasize you.

(That's kill in red-blooded American speak.)

90 posted on 11/23/2003 8:31:07 PM PST by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in groups or whole armies.....we don't care how we getcha, but we will)
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To: BOBTHENAILER
The day draws closer, but who will be the hunted, and who will be the hunter...that reamains to be determined.
91 posted on 11/23/2003 8:59:15 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: BOBTHENAILER
"islamasize"

Hay! Judging by the size of soma them butts I seen stickin in the air whilst they be doubled over in prayer, I think I'd rather be "biggie sized" if ya don't mind! (that'll kill ya too!)

92 posted on 11/23/2003 9:05:10 PM PST by SierraWasp (Like, hey man, SHIFT_HAPPENS!!! Besides, who wants to be SHIFTLESS???)
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To: Travis McGee
Aw... C'mon... He's justa camaphlaged pussy cat behind that militant lookin beard. Almost reminds one of Fidel, back in his hay day. (grin)
93 posted on 11/23/2003 9:08:20 PM PST by SierraWasp (Like, hey man, SHIFT_HAPPENS!!! Besides, who wants to be SHIFTLESS???)
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To: sauropod
""I;d like to know more. Who was the Anarchist?""

His name was Roger Nash Baldwin. He formed the American Civil Liberties Union in 1919 after he was released from Prison for draft evasion.

Here is a book on Anarchist during that period, look at the description of the by Publishers Weekly -- you'll see his name listed as one of the anarchists interviewed in this book "Anarchist Voices: An Oral History of Anarchism in America" it's a compendium of 180 interviews with anarchists...including Baldwin.

found at http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?isbn=0691034125
94 posted on 11/23/2003 9:18:53 PM PST by Jackson Brown
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To: SierraWasp
He reminds me of those Appalacian Scots-Irish mountain folks who have made up half of the American special ops forces from 1776 to today.
95 posted on 11/23/2003 9:35:49 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee
He reminds me of those Appalacian Scots-Irish mountain folks who have made up half of the American special ops forces from 1776 to today.

Funny. When I first saw his pic, I immediately thought of a Memphis-area ol' boy, one who as a teenager followed former congressman Davy Crockett's footsteps to Texas only to arrive there after the Alamo fight, and who though never formally schooled in any military academy or staff college, rose to the rank of Lieutenant General...and lived to see the end of the war in which he'd fought.

Like you said, not a feller to have upset with you. On June 14, 1863, he was shot by one Andrew W. Gould. Forrest opened the blade of a penknife with his uninjured hand and teeth, and then proceeded to cut Gould to death with it. Generalities about taking a knoife to a gunfight did not apply to such as forrest, though he did quite all right with firearms, as on one occasion when a young Yankee officer about to use his saber on Forrest learned the secret of Forrest's LeMat revolvers.



96 posted on 11/23/2003 11:45:42 PM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: Travis McGee
Preeecisely! Lock n'load!
97 posted on 11/24/2003 4:26:59 AM PST by sauropod ("Better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt")
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To: archy; Bedford Forrest
Yep, Forrest was in a category of his own. He kept lightning in a bottle!
98 posted on 11/24/2003 7:31:43 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: archy; Travis McGee
The real pity was being a horse and be given Forrest "duty". I believe they had a shorter life expectancy than a 2nd LT in the A Shau valley.
99 posted on 11/24/2003 9:25:48 AM PST by wardaddy (we must crush our enemies and make them fear us and sap their will to fight....all 2 billion of them)
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To: summer
These big demonstrations require planning and funding. The real big question that I would like to see answered is where these groups are getting their money from. I strongly suspect that a good chunk of it is coming from foreign governments, including some that are avowed enemies of the United States. The FBI and CIA need to investigate this seriously.
100 posted on 11/24/2003 9:30:23 AM PST by jpl
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