1 posted on
11/21/2003 6:15:55 PM PST by
Pokey78
To: Pokey78
It would appear that Europe is fading away. I wonder if England will be able to hold out.
2 posted on
11/21/2003 6:28:39 PM PST by
SamAdams76
(198.4 (-101.6))
To: Pokey78
Very sharp article.
3 posted on
11/21/2003 6:29:23 PM PST by
Mentos
To: Pokey78
The problem is not the old communists and ex-hippies who did the jeering. That old Left has been stranded by the tides of history - it is shrivelling and dying before our eyes. The problem is the new nationalisms now emerging in Europe that hope to exploit anti-American feeling for their own purposes: the new nationalism of the Eurocrats, who dream of building a superpower of their own; the new nationalism of the extremist fringe within Europe's Muslim minority, that makes common cause with antique peace groups in order to advance a quite different ideology and cause. Very astute analysis. Do those on the "old Left" recognize any of this, or care? It's their own demise they encourage with their petulance and denial, as well.
4 posted on
11/21/2003 6:39:58 PM PST by
workerbee
To: Pokey78
"But you have to understand how we have driven the bombers to do such things."
UnFriggenBelievable! I guess the deaths of thousands of people on 9/11 is justifiable in there eyes.
5 posted on
11/21/2003 6:43:54 PM PST by
Arpege92
To: Pokey78
I found this article on RightWingNews.com, a satirical online site. I thought it was appropriate for this thread:
Your Pink Tank Convinced Me That The War On Terrorism Is Wrong!
This is going to be hard for me, very hard indeed. But...sigh...I realized that I was wrong about the war today. We never, ever, should have invaded Iraq.
So why did I back the war for so long? Well, I have to admit that I was seduced by the logical and reasoned arguments for going to war. After all, the only hope we have of preventing future 9/11s and worse, much, much worse, is to go after not only the terrorist groups with global reach, but the rogue states that back them.
By taking out Saddam, we not only struck against an anti-American, mass grave filling thug who either had or would have reconstituted his WMD, but we knocked out a tyrant who had direct ties to Al-Qaeda. It all makes soooooo much sense...until you stop thinking about it logically and just let the pictures speak to you.
What pictures you say? The pictures from the protests in Britain that I got from UK Indymedia. Now I know what you're probably thinking, "Come on Hawkins, those people are a big bunch of 'useful idiots' for Saddam and the terrorists!". Sure, that's true, but you have to set aside logic, facts, and common sense and just look at the pictures. Let me give you some examples. Here are 3 pictures, all followed by what each pic said to me...when I let them into my heart!!!!!!!
"Our pink tank filled with children will stop terrorism!"
"Our facepaint and puckish attire proves we're right about laying down for terrorists!"
"Mindless slogans and street theater will make the world safe from Al-Qaeda!"
So you see? It's like Richard Gere said,
"In a situation like this, of course you identify with everyone who's suffering. (But we must also think about) the terrorists who are creating such horrible future lives for themselves because of the negativity of this karma. It's all of our jobs to keep our minds as expansive as possible. If you can see (the terrorists) as a relative who's dangerously sick and we have to give them medicine, and the medicine is love and compassion. There's nothing better."
That's right folks, maybe if we Americans weren't so concerned with building democracies in long suffering countries and stopping terrorists who want to murder all of us, we'd take the time to give a little love to the terrorists and Saddam Hussein. That's what the protestors taught me folks & I hope you can learn from them too.....
NOT!!!!
6 posted on
11/21/2003 6:46:21 PM PST by
TrappedInLiberalHell
(Ban Aural Sects! Stop listening to Scientology books on tape!)
To: Pokey78
While President Bush was over there he reminded the British of what they really are....a strong, noble, steadfast country. When he said they had grit, that was quite a compliment.
To: Pokey78; JohnHuang2; MeeknMing; shaggy eel
<< The war in Iraq has, within [The Euro-peon Neo-Soviet's squalidly socialistic satellite states,] become a war over their future identity ....
Which side will prevail in this war? >>
Who cares who prevails among the collectivised component parts of that dead and decadent and depraved degeneracy as it gallops toward its self-imposed third-world irrelevancy?
Let Our Beloved FRaternal Republic and our three or four foreign allies [And/or without them!] continue to know we are not engaged in a popularity contest -- and get on with Our Judeo-Christian Civilization's War Against the Barbarism that threatens US only slightly more than our domestic enemies -- and those Euro-peons to whom they turn for amoral support.
Bump/Ping
8 posted on
11/21/2003 7:04:25 PM PST by
Brian Allen
( Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God - Thomas Jefferson)
To: Pokey78
"But you have to understand how we have driven the bombers to do such things."
Beyond hope. No matter what is going on in the world the U.S. is wrong, according to these people.
I have a feeling that I'm going to have a run in with one of these fruit loops in the morning. One of the ladies who works at the Airport is insisting on bringing someone in that I can talk to about having three sons deployed. I explained to this lady that I may be unhappy at the moment but I would never request to have my
grown children brought home! She countered with the Sullivan Law. I countered with the fact that it wasn't a law at all. Did she listen? Nope. I have a gut feeling that she is going to drag someone in with "Veterans For Peace" boldly printed on his shirt.
11 posted on
11/21/2003 8:44:19 PM PST by
armymarinemom
(I Rocked the Cradle of Death from Above)
To: Pokey78
It is an argument about Britain and its future.
Frum nails it here. Britain must soon choose between the Anglosphere or the European Union. It will be incredibly difficult to be a strong American ally under the banner of the EU.
13 posted on
11/21/2003 9:25:34 PM PST by
July 4th
To: Pokey78
After a recent visit to America, the historian Timothy Garton Ash reported, "The current stereotype of Europeans is easily summarised. Europeans are wimps. They are weak, petulant, hypocritical, disunited, duplicitous, sometimes anti-Semitic, and often anti-American appeasers." Well, yeah, don't soft-pedal it, man. Yeesh.
}:-)4
14 posted on
11/21/2003 10:58:41 PM PST by
Moose4
("The road goes on forever, and the party never ends." --Robert Earl Keen)
To: Pokey78
After just reading Legacy, about the failed policies of Clinton, I hope with all that is within me that nothing will stop President Bush from continuing the course he is on. It is the fact that Clinton did nothing, or if he even bothered to attempt to fight back against terrorists, he would pull out at the first GI death, that emboldened the terrorists more. We looked weak and like paper tigers. I am just shaking with anger having just finished that book.
15 posted on
11/21/2003 11:15:18 PM PST by
ladyinred
(Talk about a revolution, look at California!!! We dumped Davis!!!)
To: Pokey78
Dark days.
17 posted on
11/22/2003 12:22:13 AM PST by
DB
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