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Bombshell: Kobe Accuser Had Sex with Key Witness
The Globe ^ | 11/20/03 | Globe

Posted on 11/21/2003 11:44:43 AM PST by Smogger

A new bombshell revelation in the Kobe Bryant case threatens to destroy the credibility of the prosecution’s key witness - whose testimony could send the basketball superstar to jail for years. Sources told GLOBE that the 19-year-old woman who has accused Bryant of rape told them she had sex with the prosecution’s star witness Bobby Pietrack - a week before she met Bryant.

Pietrack, a 23-year-old bellhop at the resort where the alleged rape took place, is the first person Katelyn Faber told about her encounter with Bryant. He can testify about her emotional state and physical appearance at the time.

But legal experts tell us that if there was a sexual encounter between Katelyn and the bellhop, it could wreck his credibility and sink the case of the Eagle County, Colo., prosecutor.

For all the details of this blockbuster story, pick up the new issue of GLOBE.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: attackthevictim; co; declineoffr; felonycrank; frsinksverylow; katefaber; kobebryant; lakers; lowlifeposting; nba; rape; rapeshield; saddayforfr; scummingoffr; slimethevictim; smearthevictim; vileattack
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To: marajade
The last guy I bet on FR not only didn't pay, but either changed his screen name or quit posting altogether.

I'll let you abuse me without mercy if you're right. Be sure to ping me.

301 posted on 11/21/2003 2:38:50 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: marajade
How would her blood on his shirt be from sex from other men?

All her blood specks prove is that she and Kobe had sex, not rape.

Consensual sex could have exacerbated her fresh injuries after servicing several men before going to Kobe's room.

302 posted on 11/21/2003 2:39:09 PM PST by george wythe
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To: Dog Gone
Well I've been around FR for six years and don't plan on leaving. You ping me okay. I'll make a public apology to you on one of these threads if I lose okay?
303 posted on 11/21/2003 2:40:02 PM PST by marajade
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To: george wythe
"Consensual sex could have exacerbated her fresh injuries after servicing several men before going to Kobe's room."

There again, the judge would have to allow the defense to bring that into evidence. I doubt that will happen.
304 posted on 11/21/2003 2:41:22 PM PST by marajade
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To: marajade
I sincerely doubt the sexual history of either the victim or the defendant or witness for that matter will be allowed.

Then I assume you think the judge won't allow any evidence of sexual trauma to be introduced, either. Otherwise, she could have had sex with 6000 men in the previous 24 hours, and all the trauma evidence would have to be solely Kobe's fault.

305 posted on 11/21/2003 2:42:34 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: marajade
I'm not talking about the womans sexual history except for the dna history in her panties. If she had sex with at least 2 people how does the prosecuter prove that Kobe caused her injuries? Without physical evidence attributable to Kobe it becomes he said/she said, barring witness testimony of hotel employee/patrons testifying to hearing screams of "stop" from his room.
306 posted on 11/21/2003 2:43:54 PM PST by Dosa26
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To: Dog Gone
"Then I assume you think the judge won't allow any evidence of sexual trauma to be introduced, either."

You are correct. I think the judge will decide that this case of rape will be decided on the fact that Bryant raped her and is what caused trauma.
307 posted on 11/21/2003 2:44:32 PM PST by marajade
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To: Dosa26
"If she had sex with at least 2 people how does the prosecuter prove that Kobe caused her injuries?"

Her sworn testimony is evidence that it did.
308 posted on 11/21/2003 2:45:25 PM PST by marajade
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To: OldFriend
And Kobe, the DEVOTED husband and father. Took him all of fifteen minutes to decide his marriage vows were meaningless. What character, integrity, and loyalty to the woman he loves.

That does not make him a rapist. There's a big difference in the legal system between audultery and rape. One is good justification for divorce, and the other is justification for imprisoning someone for 20 years. Whatever you might think of Kobe's actions, I personally have seen little in this case so far that shows he is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt of rape - to the contrary, what I have seen instead makes it more likely that the sex was consensual. I've tried to be neutral on this until the signal-to-noise ratio improved, but now there is just too much nonsense being spewed about.

310 posted on 11/21/2003 2:47:46 PM PST by dirtboy (New Ben and Jerry's flavor - Howard Dean Swirl - no ice cream, just fruit at bottom)
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To: marajade
Your comment makes no sense. Trauma = injury. You can't allow evidence of the injury at all, if you're not going to allow the defense to submit evidence that he's not the only possible source of it.

It sounds like you want a trial where only the prosecution presents evidence, and the defense isn't even allowed to rebut it.

311 posted on 11/21/2003 2:48:53 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
Again, I doubt the judge will allow the defense the right to say that her sexual acts in the past is what caused the injury. We'll see if I'm right.
312 posted on 11/21/2003 2:50:17 PM PST by marajade
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To: Skywalk
So, all any rapist can say that the victim is just trying to conceal consensual sex, and that's that. This could revolutionize our legal system. They've already tried this out in Saudi Arabia, and other countries.
313 posted on 11/21/2003 2:51:09 PM PST by nickcarraway (www.terrisfight.org)
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To: marajade
There again, the judge would have to allow the defense to bring that into evidence. I doubt that will happen.

Keep doubting all you want. It's already part of the record that she had sex with one of her boyfriends on June 28, and that she went to a medical examination sticky with semen and sperm on July 1.

Since Kobe did not ejaculate and the DA is dragging his feet about testing the July-First-on-Katelyn semen and sperm, it is reasonable to assume that the DA suspects that Kobe is not the donor.

This assumption is supported by the fact that Katelyn was wearing underwear stained with sperm and semen when she arrived to the medical exam on July 1. The underwear semen and sperm have already ruled out as belonging to Kobe.

This reminds of a little boy who breaks an expensive vase inside his house, puts the vase together the best he can, and wait for someone else to discover the broken vase.

The last person will be blamed for the broken vase, even though the vase was already broken.

The Bible says that a young woman can be either a door or a fortress with regard to her body.

I'm beginning to suspect that Katelyn is a double-hinged door.

314 posted on 11/21/2003 2:51:22 PM PST by george wythe
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To: marajade
Your wrong. That is one way to pierce the rape-shield laws. That's why the judge in the preliminary allowed it. If you are going to introduce evidence of injury then the the defense has the right to introduce evidence that supports an alternate theory of how the injuries took place.

Period. End of discussion.
315 posted on 11/21/2003 2:52:42 PM PST by Smogger
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To: notorious vrc
I think this picture is of Winona Judd, one of the 2 country / western sister singers and sister to Ashley Judd the actress.
316 posted on 11/21/2003 2:52:50 PM PST by NYTexan (back to the bunker...)
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To: george wythe
"It's already part of the record that she had sex with one of her boyfriends on June 28, and that she went to a medical examination sticky with semen and sperm on July 1."

You're assuming the trial judge will allow that evidence which was presented in pretrial in the actual trial. I'm betting he/she won't. We'll see.
317 posted on 11/21/2003 2:52:58 PM PST by marajade
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To: af_vet_1981
They don't have to be in the NBA to be perps but they need a cult following to get away with it.

Nice job of trying Kobe on flimsy evidence. If Kobe actually did this, I'd be yelling very loudly that he do hard prison time. But I also don't care to see someone sent to jail for 20 years for consensual sex - and, last I checked, it is the burden of the prosecutor to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Kobe is guilty. If you consider being unable to cross that threshhold getting away with it, perhaps you might want to start a movement to lower the evidentary threshhold for felony convictions.

318 posted on 11/21/2003 2:53:11 PM PST by dirtboy (New Ben and Jerry's flavor - Howard Dean Swirl - no ice cream, just fruit at bottom)
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To: marajade
Her sworn testimony is evidence that it did.

So in your court, I claim that a wealthy older lady raped me at gunpoint and they find evidence of her fluids in my underwear even if they find evidence of some other ladies fluids you would convict her?

319 posted on 11/21/2003 2:53:37 PM PST by Dosa26
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To: Smogger
We'll see. I'm betting he won't.
320 posted on 11/21/2003 2:53:49 PM PST by marajade
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