[liberallarry]

I came to this forum to test my ideas. In other words I believed I'd find intelligent people here capable of showing me my flaws.

I did and they did. But I won a few rounds too.

With Mr.Bird, I've discussed some of the issues. With you it doesn't seem to be worth the effort.

[presidio9]

With you it doesn't seem to be worth the effort.

Wrong. You have remained conspicuously silent when I have shown you exactly the type of reasoned debate that you claim to be seeking. The Kennedy myth does not stand up to the smell test and it makes liberals like yourself very uncomfortable when someone points out the truth to them.