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To: El Cid
Furthermore, how could a mere man carry, and pay for, the sins of all those He saved? Only the God Man - God the Son - could stand in for us sinners - pay the payment of an eternity in hell - and wash us clean.

The -God Man- are your words not the Fathers. The Father upheld his righteous servant.

Isa 42:1 the Father says through the prophet Isaiah

Behold my servant whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgement to the Gentiles.

What you are saying makes it easy for us to have an excuse not to be like Jesus. Jesus was not supernatural, he was flesh,blood, bone, a man. The difference between him and us is he is obedient to the Father and we are not, but as we change and become perfected we will walk just like Jesus did on the earth but we will do greater things because he has gone to the Father.

582 posted on 11/21/2003 4:21:37 AM PST by normy
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To: normy
Hi Normy,

Re: Post 582
The -God Man- are your words not the Fathers. The Father upheld his righteous servant.

True, the phrase "God Man" is nowhere to be found in the Bible, however we are told that 'God was manifest in the flesh' (1st Timothy 3:16); as well as the famous passage of Isaiah 7:14, 'Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.' Immanuel being interpreted: 'God with us'.
So if you'd have prefered that I used 'God manifest in the flesh' or 'God with us', rather than "God man", I'm OK with that.

Isa 42:1 the Father says through the prophet Isaiah Behold my servant whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgement to the Gentiles. What you are saying makes it easy for us to have an excuse not to be like Jesus. Jesus was not supernatural, he was flesh,blood, bone, a man. The difference between him and us is he is obedient to the Father and we are not, but as we change and become perfected we will walk just like Jesus did on the earth but we will do greater things because he has gone to the Father.

uh...I guess you have a selected reading of the Bible...I just referenced a couple of verses that highlighted the Lord's divinity - and there are many others. Yes, Jesus was flesh - and only the anti-christs will deny that - however He is also wholy God as well. Here's a couple more verses
1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us.

Regarding your other point - No, I don't wear 'WWJD' wrist-bands because I'm not going to be walking on water, nor restoring sight to the blind, nor curing lepers, nor raising the dead, nor stopping gales in their tracks with a simple word. Does that release me from following His Commandments? Of course not. If we love Him, we will follow His Word. But don't deceive yourself that one can walk a sin-free life. We will stumble, but we have a Mediator sitting at the right hand of God to defend us, and we have the Comforter here on earth to witness with our spirit and pick us up when we falter.

619 posted on 11/21/2003 8:38:53 PM PST by El Cid
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