Bush says Muslims and Christians Worship Same God

Genesis:

In the Beginning the Universe was without form and
void. But God was there. That is who/what God IS, that which was
before there was anything. God is still there. God is the very
framework and background and initiating force of everything that we
can see, feel or know.

Then God said let there be Light!. And Time began. All was chaos
and confusion. But God could never allow this lawlessness to continue and
swiftly ordered all into law and order and cycles and simplicity. The
universe grew more and more beautiful and complex. The very laws of
God demanded Growth, Change, Diversity. A point was reached when it
seemed
all
was, if not stable, then predictable, proceeding with nothing essentially
New. But God had not finished The universe was dividing into two
parts.
One whole still, whole in the heart of God, but a duality a
polarization had occurred. God had breathed the Breath of Life into
the World. This polarity deepened and grew. Again God's law had
taken Beauty more Beautiful. Then Life began to assume it's own
duality, a rich harmony based in and an echo of the primal split.
Male and Female were they created, Life reaching to Life to create
Beauty and change and growth. Life followed it's cycles and rippled
through time to God's Law but even then God was not finished. God
had let life produce a Mind, a Soul to
act
for God always in accordance with God's Law.

Genesis:

In the Beginning the Universe was without form and
void. But God was there. That is who/what God IS, that which was
before there was anything. God is still there. God is the very
framework and background and initiating force of everything that we
can see, feel or know.

Then God said let there be Light!. And Time began. All was chaos
and confusion. But God could never allow this lawlessness to continue and
swiftly ordered all into law and order and cycles and simplicity. The
universe grew more and more beautiful and complex. The very laws of
God demanded Growth, Change, Diversity. A point was reached when it
seemed
all
was, if not stable, then predictable, proceeding with nothing essentially
New. But God had not finished The universe was dividing into two
parts.
One whole still, whole in the heart of God, but a duality a
polarization had occurred. God had breathed the Breath of Life into
the World. This polarity deepened and grew. Again God's law had
taken Beauty more Beautiful. Then Life began to assume it's own
duality, a rich harmony based in and an echo of the primal split.
Male and Female were they created, Life reaching to Life to create
Beauty and change and growth. Life followed it's cycles and rippled
through time to God's Law but even then God was not finished. God
had let life produce a Mind, a Soul to
act
for God always in accordance with God's Law.

Intelligent Life is God's Will manifest.

How did we get Here?

Mankind is, and always has lived in the heart of God.
There
can be no measure of distance from us to God. No measure of time
where
God
is not with us, of us. Indeed nothing in all God's World can be
separate from God. Or each other. The Light that God created merely
reflected
and
refracted through the lenses of Gods Mind, God's Law to produce the
rainbow
worlds and stars and all that is and will be. We are God's Children,
not God's toys. There are inescapable laws that must be followed.
Nothing impossible to God's Law can happen, but it would be wrong to
say that all that happens or that we do is God's Will. As the soul
of God becomes the breath of life in one of our souls free will if
given. We always can and Always DO only that which God allows yet
the Law of God is not a jail, it includes choice and desire. We
choose our actions but God's Law holds us responsible for it.
Everytt choice and action changes all patterns we
are
a part of, indeed every thing IS one pattern so everything we do IS a
change to that pattern. One with echoes and resonances and
,harmonies.
The
universe is not done growing, it is not done changing. We are
perfect since we are perfectly ourselves. But that perfection is for
here and
now.
We are but a slice of the Mind of God in Time. We have free will
but
can
never break the law. We cannot even be sure that any particular
thing we do is choice or a conflux of patterns we cannot affect. How
can we know what God WANTS us to do? How do we know there IS a God?

Are we alone?

Much about God is unknowable, it must be accepted that
this
is so to progress in finding God. The Facet of the Soul of God we
call
me
is just a facet, one confluence of universal thread in the tapestry
that is All. That Facet cannot Be the whole jewel and also we cannot
be other than the facet. Those that try to Know too much of God must
rely on lies and distortions and illusion to construct their vision
of God. The Facet has turned away from the jewel and called itself
God. To try too hard to define God is to attempt to BE God. But
since we already ARE of God in
all
our being this only blinds us to Truth. This universe came to be and
is, was shall always be root and branch a product of what was
"before" the Light, That which gave the universe an environment to
grow in. The Mind
of
God is not the mind of as man. The minds of Man are infinitesimal
parts OF the Mind of God. The finger knows the brain is there even
if it
doesn't
understand why it moves as it does. If the finger cares about
anything
it
is being the best finger it can for the purpose of the Mind. IT is
not
so
important to worry about what God wants you to Do as it is to worry
about what you should Be. To know what you should Be first you must
know who
you
Are. God's reality decreed you would be a Human Being.

How can we know what God WANTS us to do? How do we know there IS a God?

Well, there is an instruction manuel: the Bible. There is also distance learning: Jesus. There is an on site instructor: the Holy Spirit. And there is a Dean of this college: the Father. Together, they pretty well sum up where we came from, what we have done wrong, what we are to do, and what we can expect.

That was a very pretty post you gave me, but I am a simple guy. I have to face my limitations as a human: what was your point in the post?

Christians, Jews and Muslims do worship the same God – the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. The difference is in the interpretation of God’s Will.

The theory you articulate is this?
1. Christ has said if we deny him before men He will deny us before the Father
2. A Muslim denies Jesus Christ is who He claims to be in the Scripture
3. But a Muslim does nice things to people and for people so even though the Muslim denies that Jesus CHrist died for sins the Muslim, by his good works, affirms Christ?

This is a strange twisting of the word "affirm" and of "deny" because these words mean specifically to say you believe in Him or to say you do not believe Him to be your Savior.

Also - there are no good works that stand up to scrutiny by God except those that are offered out of gratitude for Christ's death for our sins. If someone does not believe Christ died for his sins then that someone will do his good works for other reasons besides gratitude to Christ - such as an attempt to please God. But GOd is NOT pleased by good works since all our good works are imperfect.

Some Jews do believe Jesus Christ is God. Some Arabs do too. If you do not believe He is who He claims to be then you do not believe in Him. It is that simple.

TO say we believe in the same God ignores this simple fact:
The Lord Jesus Christ is God. If you say He is not God, if you deny He is God, then you are not worshipping God at all. Jews who deny He is God and think they worship a real God are deluded or else Christ was deluded!!!

Jesus Himself encountered such Jews and spoke to them with these words:

But Jesus said to those Jews, "You people are from here below. But I am from above. You belong to this world, but I don't belong to this world.
24 I told you that you would die with your sins. Yes, you will die with your sins, if you don't believe that I AM.7"
25 The Jews asked, "Then who are you?"
Jesus answered, "I am what I have told you from the beginning.
26 I have many things to say about you. I could judge you. But I tell people only the things I have heard from the One that sent me. And he speaks the truth."

Jesus is not God?

Take that one up with Jesus for He says:

And after eight days His disciples were again inside, and Thomas with them. Jesus came, the doors being shut, and stood in the mist, and said, "Peace to you!" Then He said to Thomas, "Reach your finger here, and look at My hands; and reach your hand here, and put it into My side. Do not be unbelieving, but believing." And Thomas answered and said to Him, "My Lord and my God!" Jesus said to him, "Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed." JOHN 20:26-29

But GOd is NOT pleased by good works since all our good works are imperfect.

But God made us imperfect, so why wouldn't he be pleased if we do the best we can with what he gave us?

Would a Just God who made us imperfect expect us to be perfect?

If you read the same chapter you have quoted from but read the whole chapter, not just what Thomas said you will see Jesus spoke of his Father at least twice. Verse 17 Jesus says

"Do not cling to me, for I have not yet ascended to my Father; but go to my bretheren and say to them, 'I am ascending to my Father and to my God and to your God.'"

. and also in 21

Peace to you! as the Father has sent me, I also send you."

Jesus spoke of his Father and his God that seems pretty plain.

You assume He made us imperfect but why do you do so?

Your logic is this:
1. we are imperfect now
(this is correct)
but then you assume
2. whatever is true now must always have been true about us
(this is like saying whatever is always was?)

We were made perfect. We corrupted ourselves. God gave human beings the free will in the beginning to obey Him out of love and respect or disrepect HIm and corrupt themselves.

He gave the responsibility and power to our first parents to maintain our purity and perfection but our first parents disobeyed and so corrupted themselves and all of us for we were in them - we are by inherited nature evil but that inherited nature is NOT the original nature God gave our first parents.

Yes - I know - some think that GOd is unfair for having made our first parents responsible for keeping all of human nature perfect - but who are we to say to God He is unfair if He made us perfect and gave the responsibility to maintain that perfection to our first parents? It is His choice and He, after all, knows best.

You assume He made us imperfect but why do you do so?

God didn't make us ominscient and omnipotent, so He made us imperfect. Since he made us with imperfect skills, knowledge, etc, He can't justly expect us to behave perfectly. So if we behave well enough, with Good Works, then in His Mercy, I think He'll allow us into Heaven on that basis.

Your use of the word "perfect" and "imperfect" is a problem for your thinking because you are doing something called 'equivocating'. The word "imperfect" in one place you use to mean 'incomplete' in terms of knowledge. In another place you use the word 'imperfect' to mean 'immoral'. I agree that God did not give us complete knowledge of everything. You and I stand together on that one. But we are not talking about that. We are talking about God making us "perfect" in respect to our moral capabilities and here we disagree. I say that God made our first parents 'perfect' in their hearts and minds and without sinful desires or thoughts and with the ability to obey him perfectly or to choose to disobey him. Our first parents decided freely on their own to disobey God and thus corrupted their perfect moral natures in the very act of deciding to disobey. That action on their part is what corrupted all of us. God made our kind so that in the hands of our first parents was the responsibility to pass down to us a perfectly moral nature with perfect moral impulses or they could disobey and corrupt not only themselves but all of us. This is called 'federal' responsibility. You may disagree with God's right to create the human race in such a way that in Adam's fall we all became sinners by nature since Adam had the responsibility to keep us pure. But take that up with God - it is what He reveals in the Scripture. Read Genesis 1-3 and also what David says about our natures in Psalm 51.