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Governor Seeks New Trial Over Brain Damaged Woman's Wishes
Tampa Bay Online ^
| November 19, 2003
| Vickie Chachere
Posted on 11/19/2003 4:13:47 PM PST by sweetliberty
Gov. Jeb Bush fired a volley of legal shots Wednesday at the husband of a brain damaged woman who is at the center of a right to die case, saying there needs to be a jury trial on whether Terri Schiavo wanted to be kept alive artificially. The governor also sought to remove Pinellas Circuit Court Judge W. Douglas Baird from hearing the constitutionality of the new law enacted to keep Terri Schiavo alive after her feeding tube was removed last month. In yet a third legal filing, the governor argues that Terri Schiavo's rights under the Florida Constitution are being protected, not violated.
Terri Schiavo went for six days without food and water after her husband Michael Schiavo removed her feeding tube. Florida lawmakers and Bush intervened, enacting a hastily drawn law that allowed the governor to order the feeding tube be reinserted.
Michael Schiavo has challenging the constitutionality of the governor's action. He contends his wife had said she did not want to be kept alive artificially before she suffered severe brain damage in 1990. Doctors have ruled she has been in a persistent vegetative state since, but her parents believe she is aware of her surroundings and could be rehabilitated.
Bush's attorney Ken Connor said a jury has to establish what Terri Schiavo's wishes were before a court can decide whether her private health care wishes were violated.
George Felos, Michael Schiavo's attorney, could not immediately be reached for comment.
TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: attorneyfromhell; coma; cultureofdeath; drug; druginducedcoma; euthanasia; geiorgefelos; governorhebbush; guardianfromhell; hino; husbandfromhell; judgegreer; merchantsofdeath; michaelschiavo; reallifeghouls; terri; terrischiavo
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To: TaxRelief
I was entirely prepared for his over-the-top use of "turnip" (though, assuming he's not under another handle already, he probably finally understands what's it like being unable to communicate for a change ... to hear, read, know but only vegetate -- or stew, as the case may be.)
It was this line in particular that got me:
As for repetition? Nobody is more repetitious than you obsessives - lots of "yeah, me too-isms" on these threads.
That's about what this forum's been reduced to ... and largely because of Palpitate and his ilk who've mastered the art of flaming and -- worst of all -- fear-mongering.
When first I started reading FR about 6 years ago, all I ever read were the articles. Rarely were there a whole lot of comments on threads and most of those were way over my head at first.
I've reverted to that. It's depressing anymore to spend a great deal of time navigating through a gazillion substanceless posts which amount to little more than a mellerdrammer chorus of "BOO!!!" "HISS!!!!" "HOORAY, WE'RE SAVED!!!!" or "I THINK ANN's A HOTTIE -- MORE PICS!!" as the case may be.
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posted on
11/21/2003 8:18:03 AM PST
by
Askel5
To: sweetliberty
So where is the Court TV's Nancy Grace all rights reserved sneer on that very telling and terrible sworn testimony?
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posted on
11/21/2003 9:01:49 AM PST
by
bvw
To: Askel5; xzins; Dataman; Phaedrus; bondserv; Elsie; Michael_Michaelangelo
I've reverted to that. It's depressing anymore to spend a great deal of time navigating through a gazillion substanceless posts which amount to little more than a mellerdrammer chorus of "BOO!!!" "HISS!!!!" "HOORAY, WE'RE SAVED!!!!" or "I THINK ANN's A HOTTIE -- MORE PICS!!" as the case may be. BTTT
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posted on
11/21/2003 9:33:34 AM PST
by
AndrewC
(Democracy is about voting. Even Dictatorships vote. NO FILIBUSTERS!!!!)
To: floriduh voter
GO JEB!!
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posted on
11/21/2003 10:16:16 AM PST
by
mafree
To: sweetliberty
Here's a tidbit for you when you start the next thread. (At least I haven't seen this mentioned before.) "Schiavo" means "slave" in Italian.
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posted on
11/21/2003 10:56:58 AM PST
by
T'wit
To: tutstar
what were you wondering about, tutstar? : )
To: Askel5
OK, so skip past the Trolls and join a discussion where you have expertise and clear vision to offer. I think this thread and all the efforts for Terri are a remarkable exercise in pooling minds as well as lifting hearts. We are, together, a legal-medical-research team devoted not only to save one helpless woman but to fight for the "inalienable rights" of America's founding. I hope you'll appreciate this one especially because it's akin to your good work in the Tainted Blood story.
Sure, there's repetition and small talk. Those are purely human fare and fill a need for all of us. The more so when events are troubling and we need reassurance. Anyway, we can't be heavy every minute. Comedy today, tragedy tomorrow.
It has been my experience that half the posts in anything -- from the simplest subjects to the techiest and most intellectual -- are small talk. "Stick to the subject" has always been the despair of sysops and moderators. That's just the way people are, and I like it :-) We should all have a chance to relax with each other just a bit, even if it does stray from the main discussion.
Now a somewhat related question. Does your own experience in hospice work shed some light for us?
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posted on
11/21/2003 11:19:36 AM PST
by
T'wit
To: T'wit
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posted on
11/21/2003 11:49:48 AM PST
by
pc93
(Please visit http://bellsouthpwp.net/p/c/pc93/terri_schindler_life_ribbon_campaign.htm)
To: bvw
So where is the Court TV's Nancy Grace all rights reserved sneer on that very telling and terrible sworn testimony?
I was thinking this Am while watching CT and remebered Florida has the Sunshine Law....Can't we get cameras into all these hearings and then the people could see and hear for themselves just what these judges are doing....The sunshine Law enabled you to watch the recount of votes in last election.. You will see many trials on CT too because of theis law. Cameras are allowed...Hey Nancy ---come on down and do a special
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posted on
11/21/2003 12:33:53 PM PST
by
fiesti
To: pollywog
Terri's problem is that she didn't have a living will. If your son has one, you need not worry. We are a nation of laws and the law is quite clear-- had Terri made clear her desires, her desires would be abided by.
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posted on
11/21/2003 1:15:17 PM PST
by
GraniteStateConservative
("We happy because when we switch on the TV you never see Saddam Hussein. That's a big happy.")
To: nicmarlo
not mind reader, eh? LOL
I just wondered what would come up in court records for Judge George W. Greer, any suits or anything derogatory so I did a search for his name.
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posted on
11/21/2003 2:06:55 PM PST
by
tutstar
To: GraniteStateConservative
There is no central place to register "living wills" or advanced health care directives, which makes it too easy for one to be lost or an out-of-date one to be used. Terri's case is creepy to the max because the court is going on the sayso of three parties who could very well have a reason to lie.
To: tutstar
They'd hide that stuff, tutstar.
To: sweetliberty
Clearwater, Florida-AP -- Another legal wrinkle involving Terri Schiavo (SHY'-voh), the severely brain-damaged woman at the center of a Florida right-to-die case.
Governor Jeb Bush is asking an appeals court to disqualify a judge in the case, saying he's biased.
The judge, W. Douglas Baird, refused to take himself off the case yesterday.
Baird is presiding over a challenge to a hastily-passed law that allowed Bush to order Schiavo's feeding tubes reinserted. At a hearing last week, Baird said the new law intruded on Schiavo's privacy rights and was "presumptively unconstitutional."
http://www.wane.com/Global/story.asp?S=1535856
To: Askel5
Do you think Deaf-Blind people are turnips, too?
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posted on
11/21/2003 3:10:47 PM PST
by
Saundra Duffy
(For victory & freedom!!!)
To: nicmarlo
The judge, W. Douglas Baird, refused to take himself off the case yesterday. How strange! Think about it. If you were a judge and one of the parties involved objected to you because they thought you might be biased, WOULDN'T YOU STEP ASIDE?! This is weird. Baird must have some axe to grind or a point to make. Baird and Greer are not very gracious, are they.
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posted on
11/21/2003 3:14:25 PM PST
by
Saundra Duffy
(For victory & freedom!!!)
To: Saundra Duffy
It's not wholly unusual for 1) a judge to be asked to recuse himself and 2) for a judge to say they won't. However, IMHO, this judge has shown CLEAR BIAS by announcing, before trial, that what Bush was doing was denying Terri's constitutional rights....this to me is clearly biased opinion on a matter he has not yet "reviewed".
To: msmagoo
I just saw on one of Terri's threads you posted this article.......
To: Saundra Duffy
=== Do you think Deaf-Blind people are turnips, too?
Myself ... I refuse to use the word "vegetable" as a rule. I believe it dehumanizes the individual.
I'm quoting Palpatine and -- if you read a little further -- you'll find it's the utter irony of his complaining about "me-tooism" on this forum that prompted the BTTT!
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posted on
11/21/2003 3:29:57 PM PST
by
Askel5
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