Posted on 11/19/2003 1:33:19 AM PST by Az Joe
Oswald did it, alone. Now give it up!
Link below.
You must be posting to someone else.. I said I don't even know what my experience means.. Hey dude, you got the wrong person here. I don't accept anything on face value.. I was at the window and I looked at the street myself. It is a strange angle and he would have to be hanging out the window. Perhaps he was I do not know.
You said it was left.
Actually it did initially but when the Presidents head exploded the physics of the head and brain parts jetting forward would move the head backward.
The physics is complicated and above my pay grade but I'm sure you can search the net and find a good explanation.
Did 1/3 of their skull explode out through the wound?
You know, I think there might be a little bit of difference between a flesh wound and a slug through the skull.
That's assuming a lot for these guys.
What would be the difference?
One causes you a little pain and feels like you have been with a baseball bat and the other causes your skull to violently explode showering all around you with a jet of brain, blood, and bone fragments perhaps?
A bullet or a baseball bat to the body is only going to cause a little pain? That's not what these two guys who were shot said. It was violent, full body excruciating pain and sent them reeling.
I had my leg instantly shattered in an accident at a relatively slow impact speed, and the pain was light-years beyond the capabilities of words to describe, almost what these two guys said. Huge doses of Lydocaine were needed to put a dent in my pain level. It took me over four years to walk almost normally again. So please don't lecture me on what pain is about.
So what causes the difference in reaction of soft body parts and a head? The head is full of soft openings, and on top of that, the skull is very weak in the outward direction, on the order of 20-40 times less pressure (psi) to break it open than to cave it in. If you want to try a demonstration, us a pencil eraser end on an eggshell. Try the internal pressure first, then the external pressure.
Now, at the moment when the bullet is nearly across the inside of his head, the internal pressure would be maximum since the most kinetic energy transfer from mv-momentum to the head would have occured. If that's the case, why wouldn't the head contents want to spray out the first hole already there if your jet theory is valid? And what energy would cause his head to go backwards so forcefully? I see the point you made that his head went forward first.
And you still don't seem to comprehend the difference between that leg wound and having your skull explode. Incredible! Have you ever talked with someone whose skull exploded? Case closed.
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Do you not see the similarities in momentum physics between a cylinder body part exploding and a sphere body part exploding? My questions were exclusively to that point on momentum physics, but you went off on a lecture about pain. Even after I brought my points on momentum back for a second time, you STILL can't seem to get it.
Did you miss the part where I only questioned about the head movement and internal pressure and momentum? I have a friend who was hit in the head in Vietnam and survived, so a head impact is not always fatal. You seem to have promoted yourself to the resident expert here, you must have been hit in both the body and head, so tell us about it.
Why don't you answer any of my questions? They are simple enough. Except that they involve pure physics, and your points involve something else.
Add Peter Jennings to that list of liberal FOPs (Friends of Posner).
Peter Jennings "JFK" Report: Oswald acted alone, go back to sleep...
To the right you will see the "magic bullet" picture shown in all the conspiracy books. CE 399 is the bullet viewed end-on. This is the picture the conspiracy books won't show you. See for yourself whether this bullet is really "pristine."
This following image of the "magic bullet" from a conspiracy website doens't seem to claim "pristine". It claims only that the bullet is "relatively undamaged".
This type of exaggeration by anyone making a point, such as the website you posted, undermines their credibility.
A quick search of Google turns up 19,600 references to a "pristine bullet" from you conspiracy nuts. Here are just a few:
From this conspiracy theorist's website:
Also, if the above bullet fragment proves to have caused any of the wounds that the Warren Report attributed to the nearly-pristine bullet found at Parkland Hospital, then the 'Parkland Bullet' ceases to be a 'Single Bullet'.
From Wikipedia:
This slug, other than being about 1.5% below average mass and with a small dent in the side towards the tail, was in perfect condition; in particular, its copper jacket was intact, despite leaving lead fragments in Connally's wrist.
During the Congressional Assassination hearings:
Mr. SPECTER. In your opinion, based on the tests which you have performed, was the damage inflicted on Governor Connally's wrist caused by a pristine bullet, a bullet fired from the Mannlicher-Carcano rifle 6.5 missile which did not hit anything before it struck the Governor's wrist?
From the same hearings, Dr. Olivier, a researcher at Edgewood Arsenal:
So I am pretty sure that the Governor's wrist was not hit by a pristine or a stable bullet.
From the same hearings, Dr. Wecht:
It is a near pristine bullet, again, with the only deformity being demonstrated at the base... .
From Bill Van Dyk's conspiracy page:
The pristine bullet cannot have been the same bullet that shattered Connallys wrists and ribs. It simply cant. It was planted on the stretcher in the Dallas hospital (the wrong one, apparently) to implicate Oswald.
From Rex Bradford at History Matters:
Lead autopsy prosector Dr. Humes said, referring to the fragments in Connally's body and the nearly pristine bullet, said "I can't conceive of where they came from this missile."
From Douglas Herman's web page:
Oswald chambered a second shot from the concealment of the snipers lair and wounded both Kennedy and Connelly with the pristine bullet ...
From "The John F. Kennedy Assassination Homepage":
The Magic Bullet ist the bullet what is claimed to have caused seven wounds on Kennedy and Conally. Initially this bullet had not been found. But mysteriously, it appeared later in the Parkland Memorial Hospital - you can see - in an almost pristine condition.
Russ Paielli in Case Closed?:
The bullet that supposedly caused those wounds was found on a stretcher in Parkland Hospital in virtually pristine condition.
Even a TV reviewer says it's a fact:
The same bullet was then found in pristine condition afterward on Connally's stretcher at Parkland Hospital in Dallas.
Vincent J. Salandria writing in Upfront:
Accepting as unchallenged evidence (Warren Commission Exhibit 399) an essentially pristine bullet that after flying in several directions through two bodies (Kennedy's and Connally's) and shattering several bones, left more metal in Connally's body than is missing from the bullet.
I see your credibility crumbling...
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