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To: Looking for Diogenes
Maybe the "defense of marriage" act we need is one which raises the bar on divorce. Easy divorce has harmed more families then any other cause. Divorce is what has weakened marriage in this country, not homosexuality, incest, or bestiality. It's not either/or, it's all of the above, with the source being the redefinition of marriage from life-long commitment to family-raising to being about sex partners.

But nobody wants to deal with the divorce problem. You are wrong, there are thsoe trying to fight it. Many in the Father's Movement and anti-feminist movement have been screaming about it for years - but the media supresses the muffled screams. Remember the poor desperate Brit in London on top of a building last month? The feminist movement is if anything more powerful than the gay activist movement and has been a huge part of the problem. They have done everything possible to make divorce an enticing alternative for greedy women with marriages that are getting inconvenient. A little known fact, the vast majority of divorces today are no fault and initiated by women. It's a ticket to fiscally rape men in many states if they make the mistake of marrying the wrong kind of women. It should be harder to get divorced and family courts should be fairer to men post-divorce than they are ... but POWERFUL forces oppose any change.

Comments like these .... "so-called "defenders of marriage" are not addressing the hard problem" ... are unfair. So what are *you* doing to address 'the hard problem' if you say it is so key??

250 posted on 11/18/2003 3:57:26 PM PST by WOSG (The only thing that will defeat us is defeatism itself)
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To: WOSG
Thanks for your sensible reply

Comments like these .... "so-called "defenders of marriage" are not addressing the hard problem" ... are unfair.

I'll stick by my comment. There are those who are fighting to change divorce laws, but they are mostly different from the people fighting gay marriage under the banner of "defense of marriage."

So what are *you* doing to address 'the hard problem' if you say it is so key??

I'm bringing up the topic every chance I get. And thanks for the work you're doing, whatever that may be.

252 posted on 11/18/2003 4:05:35 PM PST by Looking for Diogenes
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