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Palestinian woman kills daughter to restore family's 'honor'
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Posted on 11/18/2003 7:10:32 AM PST by Stew Padasso

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To: Ditter
Makes me furious then when Americans defend these monsters as being 'oppressed' -- they are CHOOSING to be oppressed by living like animals. "Kill or be killed" "If it feels good, do it" - they aren't any better than the excesses they see in the 'great Shetan' (America) that they purport to hate so much.
21 posted on 11/18/2003 7:55:53 AM PST by Terriergal (Psalm 11: 3 "When the foundations are being destroyed, what can the righteous do?")
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To: Hodar
over and over that our culture is not superior to any other culture; they are just 'different'.

Well, we have our problems too -- you know, like not giving enough welfare to the poor, etc... [/sarcasm]

To be honest, though sure we have people that are violent, that exploit and abuse others - but we don't have explicit religious and governmental sanction of such behavior as yet (except in the case of unborn babies).

22 posted on 11/18/2003 7:57:48 AM PST by Terriergal (Psalm 11: 3 "When the foundations are being destroyed, what can the righteous do?")
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To: Terriergal
This post needs to be saved so that we have a ready reference when we say our culture is superior and we really need to win this war.
23 posted on 11/18/2003 7:59:21 AM PST by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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To: Terriergal
West Bank - Rofayda Qaoud - raped by her brothers and impregnated

Was this in West Virginia?

24 posted on 11/18/2003 8:01:02 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy, and Bush is no conservative)
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To: Terriergal
At least, in the Old Testament, when a girl was raped (Dinah) her brothers went out and killed the rapist and all his friends.
25 posted on 11/18/2003 8:01:23 AM PST by Alouette (My son, the Learned Elder of Zion)
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To: netmilsmom
and her unborn child.

Story says child was adopted.

26 posted on 11/18/2003 8:04:45 AM PST by TheOtherOne
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To: Terriergal
odd/irrational

That works. So does sick, sad, stupid, dumb, moronic...... Just think, middle eastern countries are full of these kinds of people wanting us to change and follow Alah, or they kill us. Too bad the alphabit news stations won't speak to this because the pacifist folks really ought to understand what confronts us.

27 posted on 11/18/2003 8:10:33 AM PST by drypowder
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To: Stew Padasso
Well, it should be noted that she's going to jail for this for some years, so its not like this is condoned.
28 posted on 11/18/2003 8:11:18 AM PST by XJarhead
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To: XJarhead
"Qaoud will likely be sentenced to three to five years in prison"

That is not punishment.
29 posted on 11/18/2003 8:16:00 AM PST by Stew Padasso (Head down over a saddle.)
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To: TheOtherOne
I'm sorry, I was so credulous I missed that the child was adopted. Thanks for the correction!
30 posted on 11/18/2003 8:17:02 AM PST by netmilsmom (Lost my 4th E-Bay auction, Kid's sick, Dad in CA & out of coffee - Just shoot me now!)
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To: Stew Padasso
Is honor a concept worth dying/killing over?
31 posted on 11/18/2003 8:17:05 AM PST by stuartcr
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To: MEG33
I just can't understand how this culture was evolved It hasn't evolved one bit, it's primitive and barbaric. (but a peaceful religion of course)
32 posted on 11/18/2003 8:17:15 AM PST by Moleman
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To: stuartcr
Is honor a concept worth dying/killing over?

You bet it is.

The real question is, what kind of a barbaric culture could imagine that killing your own daughter after she was raped BY YOUR OWN SONS could restore any sort of "honor"?

Western Judeo-Christian culture is superior to Middle Eastern Islam. It just is. (And if that makes me a racist, so be it.) But no world leader today--not even the majority of Jewish and Christian leaders--has the nads to say this truth.

When Ann Coulter said, "We should kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity," she was closer to the truth than many people care to think about. At least, we need to break the stranglehold Islam has over these people and give Christianity a chance to take root.

}:-)4

33 posted on 11/18/2003 8:35:37 AM PST by Moose4 ("The road goes on forever, and the party never ends." --Robert Earl Keen)
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To: Moose4
Who gets to determine the definition of honor and what it takes to restore it?
34 posted on 11/18/2003 9:06:56 AM PST by stuartcr
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To: KC_for_Freedom
It's very sad that it even has to be said. :-( It seems pretty obvious when you look at the facts.

Then again, the libs are working to even the playing field and make our culture just as bad as everyone else's.
35 posted on 11/18/2003 9:39:19 AM PST by Terriergal (Psalm 11: 3 "When the foundations are being destroyed, what can the righteous do?")
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To: drypowder
odd/irrational

That works. So does sick, sad, stupid, dumb, moronic

I tend to understate at times for effect. :-)

Too bad the alphabit news stations won't speak to this because the pacifist folks really ought to understand what confronts us.

Most people (including the media) are in denial that there is real human evil in the world - they always want to blame someone else and think that if X person would just stop being 'bad' to another person, then person Y wouldn't grow up to be bad. It ain't that simple, and besides, if you always can blame someone else for the evil you do, then the ones you blam can do the same, and nothing will ever be solved.

But the media sits and plays "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil" when it comes to REAL evil. Instead they vilify those trying to do good, and call it evil.

36 posted on 11/18/2003 9:43:11 AM PST by Terriergal (Psalm 11: 3 "When the foundations are being destroyed, what can the righteous do?")
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To: netmilsmom
the child was born. this is after the birth that she returned, and was later killed.
37 posted on 11/18/2003 1:20:26 PM PST by MacDorcha
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To: Stew Padasso
Well at least look at the bright side, she decided not to use the baby as a suicide bomber.
38 posted on 11/18/2003 1:23:30 PM PST by dfwgator (All I want for Christmas is for Ron Zook to stay as head coach (at least till next year))
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To: stuartcr
yes. but they dont know what honour is. i doubt they ever will.

for example. in the japanes culture, suicide is the only response to significant disgrace. (the kind that would jeopordize your family or a figure head). thats fine by my standards, even though i do not wish nor will i practice it. however. murder, especially of a family memeber has never been seen as honourable. the only honourable killing comes in war or necessity.

i just write this case off as a woman having a 15 years later abortion. she didnt want to cope with it, so she took a life rather than love it.
39 posted on 11/18/2003 1:26:15 PM PST by MacDorcha
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To: Stew Padasso
it's punishment over there, but it still isnt enough. the jails over there dont know about human rights, which is good, but its only 5 years. make it 50 and we'll talk.
40 posted on 11/18/2003 1:29:01 PM PST by MacDorcha
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