To: bonesmccoy
Any other gentlemen with informed speculation on this strange round?
2 posted on
11/18/2003 12:20:19 AM PST by
bonesmccoy
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To: bonesmccoy; archy; Cannoneer No. 4; Gringo1; Matthew James; Fred Mertz; Squantos; ...
Freeper Treadhead ping!
We've seen this before, but the quesation remains unanswered...unless anyone has heard anything?
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3 posted on
11/18/2003 12:25:01 AM PST by
archy
(Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
To: bonesmccoy; af_vet_rr; ALOHA RONNIE; American in Israel; American Soldier; archy; armymarinemom; ...
Stryker List Ping! If it'll do this to an Abrams, I think there's little doubt about what it'd do to a Stryker....
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4 posted on
11/18/2003 12:28:07 AM PST by
archy
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To: bonesmccoy
Me wouldn't be surprised if Ivan was testing something.
5 posted on
11/18/2003 12:29:15 AM PST by
PLMerite
("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
To: bonesmccoy
As time goes by, I'm beginning to lean toward the 'golden RPG' theory. The main (o.k. only) reason being it hasn't happened again. If it were a new weapon, it would seem logical that there would be more tanks hit.
23 posted on
11/18/2003 12:58:59 AM PST by
Sapper26
To: bonesmccoy
Quantum Black Hole.
24 posted on
11/18/2003 1:09:43 AM PST by
Kozak
(Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
To: bonesmccoy
"Projectile" is being used far too loosely in this post.
It is obviously HEAT. Tiny pencil sized holes have been characteristic marks of HEAT penetration since WW II. Panzerfausts and bazookas did this kind of thing, it is silly to present it as new fangled and mysterious.
That means the actual projectile disintegrated outside the body of the tank, leaving only an explosive jet pushing into the armor. The rest of the path is where most of the plug of armor from the tank body itself was "shot" by that explosive jet. A few fragments broke off, that is the shrapnel that wounded the 2 crewmen.
What HEAT round? Obviously it hit an area with quite limited armor in the way, so it does not need to be anything high powered to account for the result. Moreover, the limits on the damage suggest it probably wasn't. I mean, if it had been a TOW (one of ours, MBT killer) or something similar the crew would not be so unscathed.
A LAW could do this. The RPG-22 is basically just a Russian LAW. An AT-4 could do this - indeed, would probably do more. I don't see a reason to quibble with the statement that it probably wasn't an RPG-7 - or for that matter an RPG-2 - but that leaves plenty of Warsaw pact HEAT it might have been.
26 posted on
11/18/2003 1:29:51 AM PST by
JasonC
To: bonesmccoy
Sandia Labs fired a 1 gram projetile @ 52,800 fps. F=MV2. This may be technology stolen from us.
31 posted on
11/18/2003 1:41:04 AM PST by
185JHP
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To: bonesmccoy
This isn't really new news. Alex Jones (infowars.com) was talking about this a while back on his radio broadcast. He was speculating that it was some kind of 'rail gun' supplied (maybe for testing) to the Iraqi fighters by one of our communist friends (we no longer have communist 'enemies', ya' know). He seemed to think the situation could be serious if the thing comes into common use.
But, what the h*ll ... "bring 'em on!".
66 posted on
11/18/2003 6:37:08 AM PST by
templar
To: bonesmccoy
Any other gentlemen with informed speculation on this strange round?Well, I do not qualify on the "gentleman or the "informed" part, but speculation says it was an experimental round from a anti-tank gun.
Most likely Russian orgin.
Curious event...................................
84 posted on
11/18/2003 7:37:40 AM PST by
Cold Heat
("It is easier for an ass to succeed in that trade than any other." [Samuel Clemens, on lawyers])
To: bonesmccoy
may have been a small meteorite. One of those punctured a car trunk a while back. But it was pretty big.
87 posted on
11/18/2003 7:48:48 AM PST by
CJ Wolf
To: bonesmccoy; SLB
Meteor.
To: bonesmccoy
Wow! I'm at a loss for words, but do have one question.
IF, after traveling through the tank skirt, then through everything else, the projectile buried itself 1 1/2 to 2" deep into the hull, did they recover the projectile and examine it, or did it just become part of the hull?
111 posted on
11/18/2003 8:41:27 AM PST by
Budge
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