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Clinton and Bush: Leaders of Boomer Irresponsibility
The Direct Democracy Center ^ | 11/17/03 | Daniel B. Jeffs

Posted on 11/17/2003 7:11:58 PM PST by qam1

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To: qam1
Most of the legislation enabling these things you decry was passed by the "Greatest Generation," a group which, though the richest in history, is still leeching off the Boomers and Xers.

FDR's legacy lives.

21 posted on 11/17/2003 8:35:44 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: Archangelsk
You have gone too far in your disdain for George Bush.There is no evidence he was a coke sniffer and only evidence that he drank too much,saw it was affecting his life in a negative way and quit.I hope life gets better for you soon.
22 posted on 11/17/2003 8:38:35 PM PST by MEG33
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To: qam1
This is not to say that the entire generation is bad. Far from it.

Gee, thanks for the vote of confidence. My taxes paid for you guys' college educations, remember?

Personally I take a strong stand for personal responsibility, hard work, and making one's own way in the world. It's the only thing that's going to generate enough tax revenue from you folks to keep me in the luxurious manner to which I intend to become accustomed... ;-)

23 posted on 11/17/2003 8:41:18 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: sinkspur
LBJ's Great Society destroyed the intact ,mother and dad poor family.
24 posted on 11/17/2003 8:42:09 PM PST by MEG33
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To: qam1
The only truth in this article, is that Boomers tend to be ideological, and not very attuned to compromise, or just muddling through. Boomers run the show now, and that disinclination to compromise is now in full view. But the idea that Boomers were largely screaming Leftists is silly, and always was. Boomers did however tend to be anti-establishment, until they became the establishment. In some ways I am the paradigmatic Boomer. When I read the book Generations, when it came to the description of the inclinations of Boomers, all I could think, is hey, that's me! And so it goes.
25 posted on 11/17/2003 8:42:26 PM PST by Torie
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To: qam1
Look back on what percentage of GDP it is compared to WW2's.
26 posted on 11/17/2003 8:44:02 PM PST by MEG33
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To: qam1
This article compares Bush to clinton on the one point where they have some resemblance: public spending. I have to agree that Bush is weak in that area.

But in most other areas, Bush and clinton are as different as night and the day. That is especially true on the issue of abortion. But it's also true on the issue of tax cuts. And its true on the issue of war fighting. Clinton fought wars to polish his image. Bush fights wars to defend his country.

Nor do I think that Bush is a typical baby boomer. He went to Texas, he found work, he roughnecked in the oil fields, he got himself off the playboy drinking route, he found a good wife and stuck with her, he made himself into a decent, caring human being. Not clinton.
27 posted on 11/17/2003 8:50:03 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: qam1
Re:"Many boomers are working hard to reverse the tide. But it's too late and there aren't enough of them".

As a group, we have a lot to answer for (sigh)...
28 posted on 11/17/2003 9:29:47 PM PST by lainde
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To: Archangelsk
Simplistic aren't thou, Archangelsk?......and I'll answer what ever da*n way I want to. Have a nice evening.
29 posted on 11/17/2003 9:44:09 PM PST by goodnesswins (We are living in fantastic times....the breakup of the US DEM-Commie Party is in progress)
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To: sinkspur

Absolutely right. The "Greatest Generation" was really the "Gullible Generation." That was a big advantage when fighting WWII and hopping off the boats into the withering fire of Nomandy beaches. It was a disaster after the war when they actually believed that the politicians had won the war and could do no wrong! Every wrong-headed government program was okay as long as some politician would promise them some goody for their votes. They must have believed in Santa and the Easter Bunny if they didn't see the utter flop that Social Security had to become in the future. They did not bring up the Boomer Generation to have the same standards as their parents had given them, letting the Boomers become the sad failures many have become as parents themselves. It will have to be a miracle of God to save our nation after the excesses of the last 50 years, and after the way we've treated Him, why should He care?
30 posted on 11/17/2003 9:47:58 PM PST by kittymyrib
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To: qam1
Well the article didn't explain why between 1960 when the last of the "Lost" Generation started to retire or turn over leadership to the younger "Greatest" Generation and 1992 when the "Boomers" took over everything went to pot.

As an X'er myself the generation I respect is the "Lost" one which came to age in the trenches of World War I, created the Jazz Age, lost it all in the Depression then was Generals and Sargents who lead the privates and 2LT's on the beaches at Normandy.

That Generation was the greatest of the 20th century in my book be their influance on Music (Jazz Age, 40's Swing), Writing (Steinbeck, Hemingway), Art (Edward Hopper, Thomas Hart Benton), Style (Art Deco) or other influances.
31 posted on 11/17/2003 9:59:25 PM PST by Swiss
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To: Swiss
As an X'er myself the generation I respect is the "Lost" one which came to age in the trenches of World War I, created the Jazz Age, lost it all in the Depression then was Generals and Sargents who lead the privates and 2LT's on the beaches at Normandy.

And they fought prohibition!!! No bar today can hold a candle to a speakeasy

But unfortunately they were the ones not the WWII generation (because they were too young)that elected FDR four times :-(

32 posted on 11/18/2003 12:26:03 AM PST by qam1 (Starting Generation X Ping list - See my home page for details and on how to be added)
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To: All
OK, I am starting a Gen Xer ping list

Xer Ping

Ping list for the discussion of the politics of Generation-X (Those born from 1965-1980) and directly effecting Generation-X including all the spending previous generations (i.e. The Baby Boomers) are doing that Gen-X and Y will end up paying for.  

Since generational related articles are relatively rare in Freerepublic this is expected to be a relatively low volume ping list, Weeks may pass between pings  

Gen-Ys are encouraged to join (as others but please no trolls) but note this ping list is not for the discussion of college/high school life and the liberal shenanigans that take place on campus.

These are some articles that are the expected type that will appear on the X-er ping list

Clinton and Bush: Leaders of Boomer Irresponsibility

Ideological Crossroads: Gen X Marks the Spot (Xers Turning More Conservative as they age; Gen Y too)

The Boomer Bust

Butting in on fashion: Gen-X sinks to new lows

Gen X assumes state power

Freep mail me to be added.

33 posted on 11/18/2003 1:11:44 AM PST by qam1 (Starting Generation X Ping list - See my home page for details and on how to be added)
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To: qam1
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The ACLU,  Activist Judges, Junk Science, Tune in, Turn on and drop out, Health and Safety Nazis, RINOS, Destruction of the Nuclear Family, Destruction of the Black Extended family, Smoking Bans in bars, Frivolous lawsuit, The Constitution as a living document, The Welfare State, The Nanny State, It it feels good do it, The Liberal Media elite, The founding fathers were nothing more than evil slave owners, Sound bites over substance or facts, Abortion on demand, The Clintons, Seatbelt laws, Feminism, Tree Huggers, Criminals that have more rights than the victim, Meathead, Blame America First, Latch key kids, Kids being raised by their grandparents and/or strangers, Helmet laws for Motorcycles, Helmet laws for freaking Bicycles, Cradle to grave entitlements, War on Fat, 21 year old drinking age, Yuppies, Careers over your children, Hatred of the Military, Reporters who think they are not only part of but bigger than the story they are covering, Focus groups, Weekend dads, Single moms, Prisoner rights groups, Prozac, Ritilin, Viagra, ½ our income going for taxes, America owes me, Living past failed dreams through your children, Pychobabble, Cocktail Parties with the likes of Micheal Bloomberg, Turning an educational system that once was the best in the world to S!@, The 2nd Amendment doesn't mean the Right to bear arms, Peacekeepers instead of soldiers, The weakening of the CIA, Power Couples, Soccer Moms, Stage Moms, NPR, Eradication of Dodge Ball, It's all society's fault type excuses and made up syndromes instead of personal responsibility, and so many more but I will close with.  
And an Obscene $6,000,000,000,000 Nation Debt that WE have to pay off"

Yes life in the U.S. is horrible. So leave now, you whining little baby, before things get much worse.
34 posted on 11/18/2003 1:23:15 AM PST by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: driftless
Yes life in the U.S. is horrible. So leave now, you whining little baby, before things get much worse.

Nah! Lucky the Founding Fathers laid down too good of a system which despite many boomer's attempt to tear down will survive and despite what baby boomers think they won't live forever.

35 posted on 11/18/2003 1:43:45 AM PST by qam1 (Starting Generation X Ping list - See my home page for details and on how to be added)
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To: qam1
I think it's time to take your medication again. The prozac is obviously wearing off.
36 posted on 11/18/2003 1:56:02 AM PST by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: ImphClinton
We are largely in agreement.
37 posted on 11/18/2003 5:17:47 AM PST by RaginCajunTrad (Proud to be a Trad!)
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To: qam1
I've said all along our generation of the Vietnam Era got want it wanted and now we are having to deal with the consequences. I didn't go along with the anti-Vietnam crowd and just went to marches to pick up women. It was the Vietnam generation that took the laws passed by the greatest generation and used them with a broader brush. Those of us who didn't go along were pushed aside by those who didn't want to be their father while we didn't mind our father running the country. Now its our turn to reverse all the wrongs our peers approved when their feel-good move was popular. We, like Bush, are now the fathers and must run the country while the next generation finds its way to truth.
38 posted on 11/18/2003 5:19:18 AM PST by cavdad
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To: Archangelsk
"...your hero [Bush] was an alcoholic, coke-sniffing madman..."


See Page 321, 3rd paragraph down, of DNC Bush-Basher's Talking Points for further back-up.
39 posted on 11/18/2003 5:26:25 AM PST by Maria S ("When the passions become masters, they are vices." Pascal, 1670)
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To: Cicero
"But in most other areas, Bush and clinton are as different as night and the day."

Bingo! I'm reading 'Legacy' right now (great book, BTW), and it analyzes how Clinton was (and still is) so desperate for approval, attention, and acceptance. Willing to waffle to appease what he perceives to be the majority's demands...and basically, he's somewhat chicken-hearted...and deep into 'feeeeelings'. Smooth talking, quick thinking, able to cover his screwups with a silver tongued quip.

President Bush may NOT be the smoothest talker in town, but at least WHAT he says is what he means...and it doesn't seem to matter if it's not the most popular approach.
40 posted on 11/18/2003 5:33:21 AM PST by Maria S ("When the passions become masters, they are vices." Pascal, 1670)
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