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Livingstone says Bush is 'greatest threat to life on planet'
The Independent (U.K.) ^ | 11/18/03 | Nigel Morris

Posted on 11/17/2003 4:16:54 PM PST by Pokey78

Ken Livingstone, the Mayor of London, launched a stinging attack on President George Bush last night, denouncing him as the "greatest threat to life on this planet that we've most probably ever seen".

His provocatively timed comments, on the eve of Mr Bush's arrival in London tonight, threaten to create severe embarrassment for the Prime Minister. They also come with talks under way on whether to readmit Mr Livingstone to the Labour Party before his five-year exile ends.

Although he made his many differences with the Government on a range of issues clear, he reserved his strongest comments in an interview with The Ecologist magazine for the American President.

Mr Livingstone recalled a visit at Easter to California, where he was denounced for an attack he had made on what he called "the most corrupt and racist American administration in over 80 years".

The mayor said: "Some US journalist came up to me and said: 'How can you say this about President Bush?' Well, I think what I said then was quite mild. I actually think that Bush is the greatest threat to life on this planet that we've most probably ever seen. The policies he is initiating will doom us to extinction."

Mr Livingstone, who is holding a "peace party" for anti-war groups in City Hall tomorrow, added: "I don't formally recognise George Bush because he was not officially elected. So we are organising an alternative reception for everybody who is not George Bush."

He said he supported stronger links between European Union countries only because he wanted to see a powerful bloc emerge to rival the United States. "The American agenda is sweeping everything before it, and although it's not perfect, the EU is better on environmental issues. It's a less rapacious form of capitalism."

The mayor said he had viewed Labour's 1997 election manifesto as a "load of old guff they'd come out with because they didn't want to upset the Daily Mail" that would rapidly be ditched.

"I was amazed when it transpired that Blair had been serious," he said.

Accusing the Prime Minister of suffering from a "background problem", he said: "There is nothing in his past that was radicalising. He wasn't interested in all the great student activities, the radical campaigns.

"He did not get involved in politics until the 1970s, when the high point was passed. So you have someone of the summer of '68 generation who actually wasn't part of it."

On genetically-modified foods, he said: "If the Government ignores public opinion, then civil disobedience on this issue is legitimate, as long as it's not violent.

"But the most important thing that affects a government is not peaceful protest, but fear of the ballot box.

The comments will infuriate Downing Street at a time when it is examining ways of bringing Mr Livingstone, who was expelled for standing as an independent in the London mayoral elections of 2000, back into the Labour fold.

Tony Blair's spokesman said last night: "His views are for Ken Livingstone. They are a matter for him. The Prime Minister has made his views well-known in this respect and looks forward to meeting the President."

AS THE PRESIDENT PREPARES TO VISIT SEDGEFIELD, TONY BLAIR'S CONSTITUENCY, WILL HE BE WELCOME?

Chris Lloyd, political editor of The Northern Echo: "The paper is Bush neutral and he has a right to visit but equally, the people here have a right to demonstrate. I hope he gets to see all, or at least some of those protests and I hope Mr Blair will explain what they are about because that's what friends are for. Despite Mr Bush's unpopularity, there is a frisson of excitement because nothing of this magnitude has ever happened there."

Lucy Hovvels, vice-chairwoman of Sedgefield constituency and Labour councillor in Trimdon: "I've had local people asking where they can get Union Jacks and American flags because they think it's an exciting and historic visit. I really believe Bush will get a warm welcome in Trimdon and the mood is one of excitement. We have the two most important people in the world coming to us - no one would otherwise know where Trimdon is."

Richard Wanless, co-ordinator of the 'Sedgefield Against War' protest: "The visit is a massive security risk and for those living in the area, it jeopardises our safety. No matter where he goes, there will be protests from London to the North-east to make sure he knows he is not welcome. To me, he is a war criminal that has illegal occupation of Iraq. To add to the insult, there are families here who lost their children to the war."

The Rev Martin King, rector of Sedgefield: "A lot of people here are very angry with the way the US administration is putting itself above the law. One person in my congregation said if President Bush wanted to look around the church, he would be welcome because it is a place for sinners, but he hoped his henchmen would leave their ironware at the door. His policies are very unwelcome in the region - I have not heard anyone voicing support for him."

Martin Callanan, Conservative MEP for Sedgefield: "The visit is hugely beneficial for the area. Most of the security threat to the people in Sedgefield will be represented by left-wing demonstrators. And how would we feel if our Prime Minister, whatever his political party, was treated similarly in another part of the world? It was Blair's decision to send our troops to Iraq, so those who are anti-war should not take it out on Bush."

Martin McTague, former chairman of the North-east Regional Federation of Small Businesses: "It will put Sedgefield on the map and benefit the image of the North-east. Our business community is often viewed as a backwater and this will redress some of the old stereotypes. Because this is Blair's constituency, a security risk is always there. The fact that Bush will be with him increases that risk but it is a notional increase."


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: bushhaters; incitement; leftassassins; lefties; pantywaste; sissy
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To: Pokey78
I'm afraid our British cousins have given away their freedom, and will only get it back by spilling blood.
41 posted on 11/17/2003 5:42:00 PM PST by poindexter
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To: Chuzzlewit
What is going on over there is the same thing that the Democrats are trying to do here.They want a socialist society,and I think that those Brits may be one step ahead of us there.That is why George Bush is so hated,he represents what the socialist dispise.
42 posted on 11/17/2003 5:44:56 PM PST by tapatio
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To: Pokey78
Livingstone says Bush is 'greatest threat to life on planet'

Especially if your name is Mohammad and your pants are held up with a belt of C-4.

43 posted on 11/17/2003 5:45:59 PM PST by geedee (Bureaucracy defends the status quo long past the time when the quo has lost its status.)
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To: Pokey78
They also come with talks under way on whether to readmit Mr Livingstone to the Labour Party before his five-year exile ends.

Anyone got the background on what this is about?
44 posted on 11/17/2003 5:48:19 PM PST by Russian Sage
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To: Pokey78
Flood his box!!

mailto:mayor@london.gov.uk
45 posted on 11/17/2003 5:48:40 PM PST by Conservateacher
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To: Right_in_Virginia
You tell him. Everyone knows how evil and murderous a thug like George W Bush is. He is the biggest threat to life on the planet, definitely the worst ever.
signed: Josef Stalin,Mao Zedung, Adolf Hitler, Atilla the Hun and Vlad the Impaler (Not in our name either)


46 posted on 11/17/2003 6:05:16 PM PST by McCloud-Strife
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To: Chuzzlewit
Sounds like a fag throwing a hissy fit.
47 posted on 11/17/2003 6:06:33 PM PST by nwrep
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To: RLK
As though your use of anything on earth meant anything to anybody...
48 posted on 11/17/2003 6:09:51 PM PST by Godfollow
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To: pau1f0rd
Not all Englishmen think like this idiot.

I noticed from your homepage that you're English so I'll take your word for it. But are the figures we keep hearing accurate? That between 60% and 70% of the Brits agree with this kook?

I don't remember who said it the other day . . . I think it was someone from Sweden or Norway . . . but he said the problems Europe and the U.S. are having is that Europeans are basing their reactions to current events on the timeline of the Berlin Wall falling and us Americans are, naturally, basing our reactions to current events on 9-11. This is the only explanation that has made any sense to me.

The Europeans would do well to remember how us Americans reacted after the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor. 9-11, to us, is every bit as bad. I don't expect all Europeans to agree with it. I don't expect all Europeans to understand our fury. I do think all Europeans should at least acknowledge it.

Europeans, and jackasses like this piss-ant Mayor, can curse President Bush all they want but MOST Americans agree with him . . . you're either with us or with the terrorists and EVERY European had best check their history books. An enraged American populace isn't an entity one wants to piss off.

Europeans can call us arrogant if they wish . . . but we're no more arrogant now than we were on December 7, 1941 and every non-German/Italian speaking European was thankful as hell that from that day until the Wall fell that the Sleeping Giant was on their side.

My how memories fade.

The Giant is no longer sleeping. Neither friend or foe will be allowed to bitch-slap us with impunity any longer.

I thought we could always count on the Brits and the Aussies. I hope we still can.

49 posted on 11/17/2003 6:14:27 PM PST by geedee (Bureaucracy defends the status quo long past the time when the quo has lost its status.)
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To: RLK
Livingstone is an evil leftist.

He hates Bush, he hates America, He Hates Freedom.

Nothing crazy about his statement. It is purely designed to stir up hate. It's not much different from the venom that comes out of the mouth of Osama bin Laden or Ted Kazynski.

Different extremists, same techniques.
50 posted on 11/17/2003 6:38:54 PM PST by WOSG (The only thing that will defeat us is defeatism itself)
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To: tapatio
I was just about to book a 2 week trip to London. Not now! Hello Cairo here I come. Trading Big Ben for the Pyramids is a easy choice.
51 posted on 11/17/2003 6:39:20 PM PST by xlt
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To: Pokey78
Eurotrash.
52 posted on 11/17/2003 6:52:46 PM PST by aculeus
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To: pau1f0rd
Agreed pau1f0rd. I loved my time in England and never equated London with the rest of that great land. By the way one our best days was a trip to your town of Colchester. London is a great place to see museums and Cathedrals and the like but give me the small towns and villages anyday. That is were the real Britain is.
53 posted on 11/17/2003 7:03:15 PM PST by strongbow
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To: tapatio; RFK

That is why George Bush is so hated,he represents what the socialist dispise

Very true .. and notice that Bush doesnt even have to be anything like a right-wing radical to inspire that rage, he just has to simply DEFEND FREEDOM EFFECTIVELY. Somehow, Kyoto rejection + operation Iraqi freedom + being plain-spoken + calling Osama an "evildoer" = the right recipe to inspire rage in the Left.

I find it sad, really sad, that the Left didnt 'grow up' and help defeat Islamofascism. Conclusion: They hate freedom and capitalism more than they they like freedom from medieval violence.

54 posted on 11/17/2003 7:06:28 PM PST by WOSG (The only thing that will defeat us is defeatism itself)
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To: Pokey78
I wouldn't actively wish an attack by those damned terrorists on anyone. Having said that disclaimer, I can think of several countries who need a reality wake-up call that only the terrorists can bring them. We don't need the wake-up call; it happened to us on 9/11/01. If it happened to France or Britian, well part of me would feel terrible and another part would be saying "well, there's the wake-up call; hope you heed it". I hope that doesn't sound bad, but I am being honest about my thoughts.
55 posted on 11/17/2003 7:06:59 PM PST by PeyersPatches (I AM intestinal fortitude)
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To: pau1f0rd
"Not all Englishmen think like this idiot."

Yes, but your politics is pitiable indeed to have such an extremist buffoon in office. (then again we had a coke-head to be mayor of our capital for many years - re-elected *after* he was found doing it.)

Please, shape up your Conservatives to be a real *fighting* force for freedom. Low Taxes! Less Government! End the cultural socialism and the washing ashore of 3rd world refuse! Dont 60% of Brits support that??

Please, get your country's head screwed on straight. What idiots can actually find themselves thinking USA and our President is a worse 'enemy' than child-killing *terrorists*??? If I stop to think about it, I start getting enraged by his idiocy.

Is the whole country gone Socialist? It is so bad you have idiots who dont even care about the Great in Britian. They want you to serve Brussels as your master and reject all that made Britain Great. phooey!!

What can be done to save England from its slide from imperial glory further in the muck of socialist irrelvency?
Shall we export Rush Limbaugh to your fine land for a spell to teach you how to stand up to political correctness?!?
56 posted on 11/17/2003 7:14:59 PM PST by WOSG (The only thing that will defeat us is defeatism itself)
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To: strongbow
By the way one our best days was a trip to your town of Colchester.

Small-world alert: I spent 6 years growing up in Colchester. Oldest town/city in England.

57 posted on 11/17/2003 7:26:57 PM PST by WOSG (The only thing that will defeat us is defeatism itself)
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To: All
Keeping the words of Elizabeth I in mind-,"Anger makes dull men witty, but it keeps them poor", livingstone is an intellectually bankrupt shicer.
58 posted on 11/17/2003 7:31:31 PM PST by new cruelty
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To: Pokey78
Ken Livingstone, the Mayor of London, launched a stinging attack on President George Bush last night, denouncing him as the "greatest threat to life on this planet that we've most probably ever seen".

The Mayor of London, huh? He's living in a dream world. The greatest threat to life on this planet are the Muslim terrorists, who fully intend to Islamicize the entire world, and take down anyone who doesn't agree with them.

59 posted on 11/17/2003 7:56:47 PM PST by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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To: Pokey78
A most unfortunate stupid comment which surely must qualify this expert on who is the most dangerous person to our planet to be nominated for the Clymer of the Year Award.

Frankly, I'm surprised he didn't join Gray-out, really out now, Davis's camp and include the other planets, too!

Not only are we fighting against murderous extremist Islamic terrorist bastards, we must also defend ourselves against insipid morons who have no problem whatsoever in spewing venomous but, thankfully,useless drivel.

Maybe the mayor thinks he can make big time friends with OBL and SH, but they and/or for sure their maniacal spawn of evil are only emboldened with laughter and utter disdain for such shows of clammy fear.

Be assured it is President Bush and Tony Blair's complete resolve and steadfast determination to hunt the homicidal bastards down and bring them to justice.

It is their and our warriors manly courage and bravery that they fear.

So Clymers keep on clymering because all it's goin' to get you is a kick in the clymer.

60 posted on 11/17/2003 8:00:29 PM PST by harpo11
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