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Rush Limbaugh Returns From Rehab (Some excerpts of the transcript from the show)
AP ^ | 11-17-03

Posted on 11/17/2003 2:02:28 PM PST by steppenwolffe

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To: steppenwolffe
I usually listen to Rush while doing other things. Like a chore or job I have no real interest in. Makes the time fly. Today I gave him my full attention and it was a worthwhile time out. He is in top shape again and I have no doubt he will remain so. Some days are just better than others----welcome back Rush.
41 posted on 11/17/2003 4:28:16 PM PST by mountainfolk
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To: Lazamataz
<< ["Addict:" A word invented by those unable and/or unwilling and/or determined not to be responsible for their own actions -- and for the consequences of those "own-actions".

Brian, you're off base here. I am an recovering addict as well, and I own my past behavior and all the rather horrible consequences of that behavior. >>

G'Day, old FRiend

"Recovering" is another "treatment"-center industry-invented and FRequently psycho-babbled words.

What on Earth ever happened to the perfectly sensible word "recovered" that "addicts" [People with bad -- and FRequently criminal -- habits, that is] so despise it?

I will go with "recovered former [Criminal] drug user."

How does that sit with you, Laz?

Last time I read the credible book on the subject of illict drug users -- or the one about those who had recoverED FRom illicit drug use's very-distant cousin of a sort, Alcoholism [Which quite distinctly from "drug addiction" is a disease with a diagnosis: -- "A physical alergy to alcohol, which manifests, in Alcoholics, in the phenomonen of craving;" -- and with symptoms] -- it said it was written by a group who were recoverED and said that group had "rarely seen a person fail" who who absolutely surrendered to his powerlessness over people places and whatever substance he'd been messing with -- and who subsequently lived according to certain very clearly defined and spelled out spiritual principles.

All of the above-mention texts, also, by the way, stated that anonymity was the base upon which every one of those principles stood and that without anonymity their could be no "recovery."

Only, one supposes, a more or less drug-FRee waiting period between what the institutionally and systemically-fraudulent "treatment-center" industry -- and the "psychologists" that parasite off that industry's victims -- so conveniently for it and them call "relapses?"

What hope then for Mr Limbaugh's trumpeted-from-the-rooftops' "recovery?"

Best ones -- Brian
42 posted on 11/17/2003 4:29:27 PM PST by Brian Allen ( Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: steppenwolffe; Lazamataz
"I have to admit that I am powerless over this addiction that I have," he said. "I used to think
I could beat it with force of will. I used to think that I would be different, but I'm not."

So did I Rush, so did I. When it comes to an addiction no one is different.

1st step, admit that you are powerless over your addiction, #2 ask GOD for help.
It's only by the Grace of God that I have been sober for eleven years.

43 posted on 11/17/2003 4:31:00 PM PST by The Mayor (Through prayer, finite man draws upon the power of the infinite God.)
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To: Brian Allen
recoverED

Is not a word I use, if I started drinking today, I would be just where I was 11 years ago in no time, just days.
I will never have recovered, I have accepted the fact that I can never touch alcohol again as long as I am on God's green Earth.
I have no problem with that. I thank God and God alone for my life being saved.

44 posted on 11/17/2003 4:36:47 PM PST by The Mayor (Through prayer, finite man draws upon the power of the infinite God.)
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To: The Mayor
I respect those who successfully stay sober after being addicted. I think our President is an example of how one can recover and go on to do great things.
45 posted on 11/17/2003 5:18:42 PM PST by Montfort
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To: The Mayor
<< So did I Rush, so did I. When it comes to an addiction no one is different.

1st step, admit that you are powerless over your addiction, #2 ask GOD for help.
It's only by the Grace of God that I have been sober for eleven years ................. >>

Rubbish! You have been sober for the past eleven years, if that's the case, because you didn't take a drink for the past eleven years.

[For which you should continue to thank God!]

<< ........... recoverED

Is not a word I use, if I started drinking today, I would be just where I was 11 years ago in no time, just days.

I will never have recovered, I have accepted the fact that I can never touch alcohol again as long as I am on God's green Earth.

I have no problem with that. I thank God and God alone for my life being saved. >>

If you are an alcoholic and start drinking you will no more be where you were eleven years ago than you will be the same age you were then. Alcoholism is a progressive disease and if you drink again -- and continue to drink -- you will be at the place you would have been had you never quit. The Disease of Alcoholism [Which is just a physical alergy, after all] is, after all, in you. It is not lurking down at the bottle store -- or even at at the office of some quack "psychologist" or "therapist" or "counsellor."

Clear to see that your potential for ever being recovered has become so gobbly-gooked up with psychobabble as to be shakey, at best.

For example: Being "in recovery" from "an addiction," is not being sober.

With regard to the Disease of Alcoholism and to the consequences of the deliberate use of criminalized substances the word "Sober" relates only to Alcoholism.

And the first step to becoming recovered from any disease, such as Alcoholism -- or self-induced disease state, such as that consequential to the deliberate ingestion of habit-forming chemicals -- is to IDENTIFY the disease -- or, in the case of the "addict's" self-induced and consequential disease-state -- the cause of his disease state.

Alcoholism is easy and has a medical diagnosis: An alergy to alcohol that manifests in the phenomonin of craving -- and easily recognized and identified symptoms. It is progressive, incurable and fatal in 98% of its sufferers.

Save for total abstinance from alcohol -- and from all mind-altering substances -- there is no "treatment" for Alcoholism.

Those afflicted with so-called "drug addiction;" for years the playground of members of that awful gang of beyond-lying statisticians that have called themselves "psychologists" and of the even-more-awful offshoots of that gang -- "therapists" and "counselors;" don't become sober and/or achieve sobriety but rather become what they call "straight" and "clean."

If you ARE in fact a sober Alcoholic, you might care to read the Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous. In it you will find that if you follow the example of the first one hundred or so of Alcoholics Anonymous's sober Alcoholics the result will be that you will be recoverED from Alcoholism.

Not cured -- Alcoholism is a progressive, incurable fatal disease -- but recoverED.

You will also find the the "first step" you mentioned is first mentioned in Chapter Five, 86 pages after the cover page, which informs readers that the book contains "The story of how many thousands of men and woman recoverED from Alcoholism" -- and 76 pages after the Foreword to the First Edition has informed the book's readers that its authors are men and women who have recoverED from Alcoholism -- and that the book's purpose is "to show other Alcoholics PRECISELY how" they "have recoverED." And quite a way after it defines the Disease of Alcoholism, for which work -- and for the millions of recoverED Alcoholics consequential to its work -- Alcoholics Anonymous was awarded the 1951 Lasker Award!

Might pay you -- if you are an Alcoholic and haven't had a drink for eleven years -- to get a literate mentor to read it to you.

Particularly the part about God, yourself -- and ANOTHER Human Being!

Blessings -- Brian
46 posted on 11/17/2003 7:04:39 PM PST by Brian Allen ( Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Allen In So Cal
Is anyone else a bit concerned because there has not been one peep about Marta?

I was wondering the same thing when listening today. I hope everything is ok. I'd hate to think this led to trouble between them.

48 posted on 11/17/2003 8:12:53 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: jersey_gambler
jersey_gambler
Since Nov 18, 2003


Hush up! You're not a freeper until tomorrow.
49 posted on 11/17/2003 8:19:21 PM PST by dubyagee
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To: jersey_gambler
Rush Limbaugh broke the law. Serious laws. I'm appalled that any conservative can defend a criminal because that's what he is. If he wasn't "one of us" you would all be calling for his crucifixion.

I haven't yet seen any credible evidence that he broke any laws. The only source so far has been the National Enquirer. A couple of news magazines had some 'quotes' from some anonymous 'law enforcement sources' in Palm Beach County, who could have been in the Democrat controlled DA's office for all we know, but there has been nothing definite.

Rush said today that he will address this as soon as he can. I'm sure there are legal reasons he can't get into it on the radio. I'm patient; I'll wait.

50 posted on 11/17/2003 8:20:03 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: steppenwolffe
This was posted at the Hobbit Hole this morning!


51 posted on 11/17/2003 8:22:41 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: goldstategop
I listened to about 95% of his show today, and I found him *extra* sharp and kicka**!! I think now that he doesn't have half his brain tied behind his back (or if he does, it's still on call!) he's going to be a bigger force for the leftists to reckon with.
52 posted on 11/17/2003 8:58:47 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: ravinson
Tell me, did you dislike Rush before or just now? To me, he sounded a bit vulnerable and emotional in the beginning of the show - and he admitted he had nothing written, he was just speaking extemporaneously - but when he started attacking the leftists, he *was* sharp - and more pointed than he used to be (sounded that way to me, anyway).
53 posted on 11/17/2003 9:02:17 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: jersey_gambler
Rush Limbaugh broke the law. Serious laws.

Hmmm...you just signed up on FR (today, in fact - or tomorrow?) and I can feel in my gut that you are a troll! You are trying to goad conservative folk who appreciate Rush Limbaugh's contributions to the conservative cause into equating him with a meth snorter or heroin slammer. You are transparent.

PS. Cops go after sellers, first time users are dealt with very lightly. Especially when they weren't using street drugs, but prescription meds originally used for pain.

(I know I just signed up too but I have been lurking for a long long time, plus I ain't a liberal.)

54 posted on 11/17/2003 9:11:10 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: jersey_gambler
It almost makes one want to become a liberal.

You've become a liberal and kitten chow, all in one breath.

55 posted on 11/17/2003 9:15:04 PM PST by dighton
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To: Allen In So Cal
the closest i've heard Rush come to mentioning Marta was when he mentioned something about how addictions "tear up" families, which is what he had done, or something to that effect. since he hasn't mentioned her at all by name, i'm assuming the worst. no doubt she's mighty upset with him. i guess i couldn't blame her, but it is terribly disappointing if they've parted ways.
56 posted on 11/22/2003 10:14:52 AM PST by Austrian Cowboy
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