[Dimensio]

That doesn't tell me why it's "better."

Well, I find freedom for me to be "better" than slavery for me. Likewise, I find it "better" that my friends and family are free than slaves. Yes, it's a relative term, but I never claimed otherwise.

[MitchellC]

Well, I find freedom for me to be "better" than slavery for me. Likewise, I find it "better" that my friends and family are free than slaves. Yes, it's a relative term, but I never claimed otherwise.

Good! I appreciate your straight-forwardness and honesty.

You illustrate my point - that all atheism is left to deal in is a relativism based on personal desires, with no justification for applying any moral code to the whole of humanity.