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US agrees to international control of its troops in Iraq
Independent (UK) ^ | Today | Guardian

Posted on 11/17/2003 12:26:47 AM PST by Arkinsaw

17 November 2003

The United States accepts that to avoid humiliating failure in Iraq it needs to bring its forces quickly under international control and speed the handover of power, Javier Solana, the European Union foreign policy chief, has said. Decisions along these lines will be made in the "coming days", Mr Solana told The Independent.

The comments, signalling a major policy shift by the US, precede President George Bush's state visit this week to London, during which he and Tony Blair will discuss an exit strategy for forces in Iraq.

Mr Solana underlined the change of mood in Washington, saying: "Everybody has moved, including the United States, because the United States has a real problem and when you have a real problem you need help." There is a "growing consensus" that the transfer of power has to be accelerated, he said. "How fast can it be done? I would say the faster the better."

He added: "The more the international community is incorporated under the international organisations [the better]. That is the lesson I think everyone is learning. Our American friends are learning that. We will see in the coming days decisions along these lines."

The Bush administration spelt out over the weekend its new plans for the faster transfer of power from Americans to the Iraqis, with a transitional government now scheduled to take over from the end of June. Before, US officials had said that Iraqi leaders should write a constitution first, then hold elections.

As the EU's foreign policy representative, Mr Solana has been playing a significant, behind-the-scenes role. Until now, the US had resisted putting the allied forces under international auspices, although there is growing support in Washington for a Nato role.

Colin Powell, the US Secretary of State, arrives in Brussels tonight for talks with EU ministers, which he will combine with a meeting with the retiring Nato secretary general, Lord Robertson of Port Ellen. Diplomats say that Mr Powell is expected to "test the water" about the involvement of the transatlantic alliance in Iraq. The litany of setbacks, growing US casualties and the recent killing of 18 Italian servicemen has brought intense domestic and international pressure on the Bush administration to give the occupying force more legitimacy.

Eager to counter this domestic unease, the American military sought to advertise their latest crack-down. They declared that they had fired a satellite-guided missile at what they said was an insurgents' training camp west of Kirkuk.

But there was more grim news on Saturday with the collision of two Black Hawk helicopters after one was hit by a rocket-propelled grenade. Seventeen American soldiers died, the worst single loss of life in one incident since President Bush ordered the US-led invasion.

He insisted yesterday that the US would not "cut and run". In an interview with Breakfast with Frost on BBC1, the President said the United States would not spend "years and years" in Iraq. But he rejected as "not a fair comment" claims that the US was unprepared for winning peace. Mounting violence in Iraq was "nothing more than a power grab". He added: "There are some foreign fighters, mujahedin types or al-Qa'ida, or al-Qa'ida affiliates involved, as well."

America's chief post-war administrator in Iraq, Paul Bremer, also suggested that US-led forces would remain on a different basis. "Our presence here will change from an occupation to an invited presence," he said. "I'm sure the Iraqi government is going to want to have coalition forces here for its own security for some time.

There have been no specifics yet about how the international community would control the mainly American and British forces in Iraq. Nato remains the only strong possibility because it would provide international credibility while leaving control with a military organisation which Washington dominates.

Nato has already proved its willingness to act outside its traditional sphere of operations by taking a role in Afghanistan. But to allow it to deploy in Iraq would mean getting the approval of all 19 Nato allies including France, Germany and Belgium, all staunch opponents of the war.

They would need to be satisfiedthat the UN had been given a sufficient role in the political control of Iraq. Diplomats say that the US and Britain will need to be certain that no one will block an Iraq mission before they make a request.

With the US-led occupation likely to be declared over the next year, Mr Bremer said that work would start on a constitutional settlement. "We'll have a bill of rights. We'll recognise equality for all citizens. We'll recognise an independent judiciary. We'll talk about a federal government," he said.

Mr Bremer explained that the Americans would work with the Iraqi Governing Council in writing the interim constitution. There would also be a side agreement dealing with security and the presence of American and coalition forces in Iraq, he said.

Al-Qa'ida claimed responsibility for the bombings of two Istanbul synagogues which killed at least 23 people and vowed further attacks, the London-based Arab newspaper al-Quds al-Arabi said yesterday.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: eu; europeanunion; iraq; javiersolana; nato; war
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Oh boy, EU and NATO to the "rescue"?
1 posted on 11/17/2003 12:26:48 AM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: Arkinsaw
The Guardian is not exactly the most trustable source for Iraq news.
2 posted on 11/17/2003 12:29:58 AM PST by Timesink
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To: Arkinsaw
This better not be true.
3 posted on 11/17/2003 12:30:05 AM PST by DB (©)
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To: Timesink
I goofed it up, its actually The Independent. I asked the admin mod to change it.
4 posted on 11/17/2003 12:30:32 AM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: Arkinsaw
The United States accepts that to avoid humiliating failure in Iraq it needs to bring its forces quickly under international control and speed the handover of power

This first sentence was enough for me to quit and wait till some objective news comes out on this.

5 posted on 11/17/2003 12:31:24 AM PST by GOPyouth (De Oppresso Liber! Heather Nauert is all that is woman!)
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This first sentence was enough for me to quit and wait till some objective news comes out on this.

They need to have Condi Rice come out and explain this one tomorrow.
6 posted on 11/17/2003 12:32:38 AM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: Arkinsaw
I goofed it up, its actually The Independent. I asked the admin mod to change it.

Heh heh! The Independent is probably the only major UK paper more radical than The Guardian!

7 posted on 11/17/2003 12:32:39 AM PST by Timesink
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To: Timesink
The Independent is probably the only major UK paper more radical than The Guardian!

At least its not the Daily Mirror.
8 posted on 11/17/2003 12:33:26 AM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: Arkinsaw
I understand why they don't trust the Independent and took it out of breaking news. But the quotes are likely to be real and they are disturbing enough.
9 posted on 11/17/2003 12:35:17 AM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: Timesink
Drudge said this was false. This would be political suicide for this administration.
10 posted on 11/17/2003 12:36:02 AM PST by this_ol_patriot
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To: Arkinsaw
If it's NATO that takes control of this, then that might pose a problem. NATO tied the arms behind our backs in Serbia. In order to make sure no country objected we ended up with an air war with no planes flying under 12k feet and no ground troops. I suppose nothing will come out till Bush meets with Blair this week.
11 posted on 11/17/2003 12:37:08 AM PST by GOPyouth (De Oppresso Liber! Heather Nauert is all that is woman!)
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To: Arkinsaw
This had better not be true, did we not learn our lesson in Somalia?
12 posted on 11/17/2003 12:37:09 AM PST by expatguy
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To: expatguy
If it is true, say hello to President(Dr.) Dean.
13 posted on 11/17/2003 12:48:03 AM PST by dwilli
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To: dwilli
If it is true, say hello to President(Dr.) Dean.

Dean has to carry some southern states to win. That ain't gonna happen.

14 posted on 11/17/2003 12:53:26 AM PST by GOPyouth (De Oppresso Liber! Heather Nauert is all that is woman!)
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Republicans have to carry the South and Border states to win a national election, democrats can win with the northeast, and the large population states (Cal., Ill.,
Michigan, Penn etc.
15 posted on 11/17/2003 1:10:32 AM PST by dwilli
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But to allow it to deploy in Iraq would mean getting the approval of all 19 Nato allies including France, Germany and Belgium, all staunch opponents of the war.
How did we ever win WWII without the support of the French and Germans?
16 posted on 11/17/2003 1:19:37 AM PST by samtheman
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To: GOPyouth
Ya because it's only been the Americans that have been attacked. The Red Cross and Italy haven't been attacked. Oh wait, they have. So how does international control change things? Besides the fact that a country that quietly let a mad man take over and become dictator and another country that was too afraid to fight the dictator will now have a say in what goes on in Iraq without sending a troop. You'd think that the people reading this would have the brains to realize how stupid this idea is.
17 posted on 11/17/2003 1:25:22 AM PST by bitcon
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To: Arkinsaw
Nothing in the story supports the headline. I won't even link it to my little webpage.
18 posted on 11/17/2003 1:31:07 AM PST by GeronL (Visit www.geocities.com/geronl.....and.....www.returnoftheprimitive.com)
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To: this_ol_patriot
POTUS said this was not true: political and military "are on separate tracks". I heard Rummy dispute this assertion even before W addressed it.

More Leftist wet dreams. The Independant hates us, hates Bush and is rarely accurate in regards to either.
19 posted on 11/17/2003 5:33:41 AM PST by reformedliberal
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To: GOPyouth
Dean has to carry some southern states to win. That ain't gonna happen.

Although the article doesn't support the notion, if it were to happen, there are people who support/voted for Bush and are sitting on the fence right now that would start looking at alternatives. I don't think many vets would support this in 2004, and Powell and others know the problems inherent in international control. I don't think it'll happen.

20 posted on 11/17/2003 7:44:25 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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